[MonetDB-users] How does MonetDB work
Hey, my name is anjenny and im doin a little research on MonetDB for a project.
My Question is How does MonetDB actually work?
Greetings anjenny
Hello anjenny,
could you be more specific on that? -how do you install MonetDB? -how do you create a database? -how do you set up the server? ...
Mike
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:05 PM, anjenny anjenny1@hotmail.com wrote:
Hey, my name is anjenny and im doin a little research on MonetDB for a project.
My Question is How does MonetDB actually work?
Greetings anjenny
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Hi anjenny,
for your research I would suggest you go over their website and search more about column based databases. There are quite a few resources on how column based DBs are different. We have found MonetDB is quite good as analytical database but it still needs some work. I would suggest to use this for bulk insert operations with COPY command. Updates are extremely inefficient due to nature of it's store.
Check out some documents: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=column+oriented+databases+filetype%3Apdf
Ty for the link i did look at their site but cudnt find much information. ill make sure to read the link u gave
anjenny
Vladimir Vlach-2 wrote:
Hi anjenny,
for your research I would suggest you go over their website and search more about column based databases. There are quite a few resources on how column based DBs are different. We have found MonetDB is quite good as analytical database but it still needs some work. I would suggest to use this for bulk insert operations with COPY command. Updates are extremely inefficient due to nature of it's store.
Check out some documents: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=column+oriented+databases+filetype%3Apdf
-- Vlad http://www.joulex.net/
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Michael Sioutis papito.dit@gmail.com wrote:
Hello anjenny, could you be more specific on that? -how do you install MonetDB? -how do you create a database? -how do you set up the server? ... Mike
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:05 PM, anjenny anjenny1@hotmail.com wrote:
Hey, my name is anjenny and im doin a little research on MonetDB for a project.
My Question is How does MonetDB actually work?
Greetings anjenny
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TY for ur reply... the question shud have been how does it process the data (as in complex query's)
Anjenny
Michael Sioutis-2 wrote:
Hello anjenny,
could you be more specific on that? -how do you install MonetDB? -how do you create a database? -how do you set up the server? ...
Mike
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:05 PM, anjenny anjenny1@hotmail.com wrote:
Hey, my name is anjenny and im doin a little research on MonetDB for a project.
My Question is How does MonetDB actually work?
Greetings anjenny
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Hi Anjenny,
Sorry for breaking into the conversation but I felt the urge. As indicated, you first question is too general and so is your second one.
Depending on your level of knowledge, I would advise you to first get a basic introduction into DBMSs using a text book (this one is used a lot, I think: http://tinyurl.com/8p2zyq). This will give you a basic introduction into how DBMSs "process the data" in general. After that you may start digging into what MonetDB does differently (which is probably the question you wanted to ask). You already got the link on Column-Oriented DBMS but there is more to MonetDB: I'd advise you to check out the thesis of Peter Boncz: http://oai.cwi.nl/oai/asset/14832/14832A.pdf. After that you can check out the list of publications of the group: http://tinyurl.com/5u7z6w8.
None of these should be too surprising and all could, I believe, be found using google.
kind regards
holger
On Apr 25, 2011, at 4:13 PM, anjenny wrote:
TY for ur reply... the question shud have been how does it process the data (as in complex query's)
Anjenny
Michael Sioutis-2 wrote:
Hello anjenny,
could you be more specific on that? -how do you install MonetDB? -how do you create a database? -how do you set up the server? ...
Mike
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:05 PM, anjenny anjenny1@hotmail.com wrote:
Hey, my name is anjenny and im doin a little research on MonetDB for a project.
My Question is How does MonetDB actually work?
Greetings anjenny
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Thank you for your reply, i didnt know exactly how to ask my question cause im new to DBMSs. But yesh the question is clear to me now "what does MonetDB do differently then other systems?". Still dnt know if the question is too general...sorry for that
greetings anjenny
Hi Anjenny,
Sorry for breaking into the conversation but I felt the urge. As indicated, you first question is too general and so is your second one.
Depending on your level of knowledge, I would advise you to first get a basic introduction into DBMSs using a text book (this one is used a lot, I think: http://tinyurl.com/8p2zyq). This will give you a basic introduction into how DBMSs "process the data" in general. After that you may start digging into what MonetDB does differently (which is probably the question you wanted to ask). You already got the link on Column-Oriented DBMS but there is more to MonetDB: I'd advise you to check out the thesis of Peter Boncz: http://oai.cwi.nl/oai/asset/14832/14832A.pdf. After that you can check out the list of publications of the group: http://tinyurl.com/5u7z6w8.
None of these should be too surprising and all could, I believe, be found using google.
kind regards holger
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 06:46:37AM -0700, anjenny wrote:
Thank you for your reply, i didnt know exactly how to ask my question cause im new to DBMSs. But yesh the question is clear to me now "what does MonetDB do differently then other systems?".
In short: almost everything, except providing the same standard interfaces like SQL, JDBC, ODBC.
In detail, among others: - column-store rather than row-store - focus on efficient in-memory processing rather than focus on dis-kbased processing - operator-at-a-time "bulk-processing" rather than tuple-at-a-time pipelining - laveraging OS functinality rather than re-implementing it (e.g., virtual memory management) - focussing on (though not limited to) read-mostly column-wise workloads rather than write-mostly row-oriented workloads
... and many more; details can be found in our below mentioned scientific publications as well as on the monetdb web site.
Stefan
Still dnt know if the question is too general...sorry for that
greetings anjenny
Hi Anjenny,
Sorry for breaking into the conversation but I felt the urge. As indicated, you first question is too general and so is your second one.
Depending on your level of knowledge, I would advise you to first get a basic introduction into DBMSs using a text book (this one is used a lot, I think: http://tinyurl.com/8p2zyq). This will give you a basic introduction into how DBMSs "process the data" in general. After that you may start digging into what MonetDB does differently (which is probably the question you wanted to ask). You already got the link on Column-Oriented DBMS but there is more to MonetDB: I'd advise you to check out the thesis of Peter Boncz: http://oai.cwi.nl/oai/asset/14832/14832A.pdf. After that you can check out the list of publications of the group: http://tinyurl.com/5u7z6w8.
None of these should be too surprising and all could, I believe, be found using google.
kind regardsholger
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