Hi Stefan, 

i double-checked my Makefile.ag, and mserver5 start-up message:

[svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB]$>ps -ef|grep monetdb
svomhpc  19083     1  0 12:58 ?        00:00:00 monetdbd start mydbfarm2
svomhpc  19090 19083  0 12:58 ?        00:00:01 /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/bin/mserver5 --dbpath=/home/data1/mydbfarm2/mydb2 --set merovingian_uri mapi:monetdb://localhost.localdomain:50000/mydb2 --set mapi_open false --set mapi_port 0 --set mapi_usock /home/data1/mydbfarm2/mydb2/.mapi.sock --set monet_vault_key /home/data1/mydbfarm2/mydb2/.vaultkey --set gdk_nr_threads 4 --set max_clients 64 --set sql_optimizer default_pipe --set monet_daemon yes
svomhpc  19399 26416  0 13:16 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto monetdb
[svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB]$>
[svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB]$>
[svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB]$>
[svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB]$>sudo gdb /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/bin/mserver5 19090
GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora (7.5.0.20120926-25.fc18)
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This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu".
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/bin/mserver5...done.
Attaching to program: /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/bin/mserver5, process 19090
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libmonetdb5.so.14...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libmonetdb5.so.14
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libbat.so.9...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libbat.so.9
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libmapi.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libmapi.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib64/libuuid.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libuuid.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libuuid.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libreadline.so.6...Reading symbols from /lib64/libreadline.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libreadline.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib64/libxml2.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/libxml2.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libxml2.so.2
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libstream.so.3...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/libstream.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib64/libm.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libm.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib64/libz.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libz.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libz.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libbz2.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libbz2.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libbz2.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libcurl.so.4...Reading symbols from /lib64/libcurl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libcurl.so.4
Reading symbols from /lib64/libpcre.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libpcre.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libpcre.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libssl.so.10...Reading symbols from /lib64/libssl.so.10...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libssl.so.10
Reading symbols from /lib64/libcrypto.so.10...Reading symbols from /lib64/libcrypto.so.10...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libcrypto.so.10
Reading symbols from /lib64/libdl.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libdl.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libpthread.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
[New LWP 19099]
[New LWP 19098]
[New LWP 19097]
[New LWP 19096]
[New LWP 19094]
[New LWP 19093]
[New LWP 19092]
[New LWP 19091]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1".
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libpthread.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib64/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libc.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libtinfo.so.5...Reading symbols from /lib64/libtinfo.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libtinfo.so.5
Reading symbols from /lib64/liblzma.so.5...Reading symbols from /lib64/liblzma.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/liblzma.so.5
Reading symbols from /lib64/libidn.so.11...Reading symbols from /lib64/libidn.so.11...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libidn.so.11
Reading symbols from /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libldap-2.4.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/librt.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/librt.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libgssapi_krb5.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libkrb5.so.3...Reading symbols from /lib64/libkrb5.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libkrb5.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3...Reading symbols from /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libk5crypto.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib64/libcom_err.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/libcom_err.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libcom_err.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libssl3.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libssl3.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libssl3.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libsmime3.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libsmime3.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libsmime3.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libnss3.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libnss3.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libnss3.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libnssutil3.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libnssutil3.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libnssutil3.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libplds4.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libplds4.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libplds4.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libplc4.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libplc4.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libplc4.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libnspr4.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libnspr4.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libnspr4.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libssh2.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libssh2.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libssh2.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libresolv.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libresolv.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libsasl2.so.2...Reading symbols from /lib64/libsasl2.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libsasl2.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0...Reading symbols from /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libkrb5support.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libkeyutils.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libcrypt.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libcrypt.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libselinux.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libselinux.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libselinux.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libfreebl3.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libfreebl3.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libfreebl3.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_geom.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_geom.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libgeos_c.so.1...Reading symbols from /lib64/libgeos_c.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libgeos_c.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib64/libgeos-3.3.2.so...Reading symbols from /lib64/libgeos-3.3.2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libgeos-3.3.2.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libstdc++.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libstdc++.so.6
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_json.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_json.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_jaql.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_jaql.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_sql.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_sql.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_fits.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_fits.so
Reading symbols from /lib64/libcfitsio.so.0...Reading symbols from /lib64/libcfitsio.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
(no debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib64/libcfitsio.so.0
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_lsst.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_lsst.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_ssdb.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_ssdb.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_udf.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_udf.so
Reading symbols from /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_opt_sql_append.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_opt_sql_append.so
0x0000003efdeeb5f3 in select () from /lib64/libc.so.6
Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install bzip2-libs-1.0.6-7.fc18.x86_64 cfitsio-3.300-2.fc18.x86_64 cyrus-sasl-lib-2.1.23-36.fc18.x86_64 geos-3.3.2-3.fc18.x86_64 glibc-2.16-24.fc18.x86_64 keyutils-libs-1.5.5-3.fc18.x86_64 krb5-libs-1.10.3-5.fc18.x86_64 libcom_err-1.42.5-1.fc18.x86_64 libcurl-7.27.0-4.fc18.x86_64 libgcc-4.7.2-8.fc18.x86_64 libidn-1.25-3.fc18.x86_64 libselinux-2.1.12-7.fc18.x86_64 libssh2-1.4.2-2.fc18.x86_64 libstdc++-4.7.2-8.fc18.x86_64 libuuid-2.22.1-2.1.fc18.x86_64 libxml2-2.9.0-3.fc18.x86_64 ncurses-libs-5.9-7.20121017.fc18.x86_64 nspr-4.9.2-1.fc18.x86_64 nss-3.14-7.fc18.x86_64 nss-softokn-freebl-3.14-5.fc18.x86_64 nss-util-3.14-1.fc18.x86_64 openldap-2.4.33-3.fc18.x86_64 openssl-libs-1.0.1c-7.fc18.x86_64 pcre-8.31-2.fc18.x86_64 readline-6.2-5.fc18.x86_64 xz-libs-5.1.2-2alpha.fc18.x86_64 zlib-1.2.7-9.fc18.x86_64
(gdb) b reverse
Function "reverse" not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) n
(gdb) b udf.reverse
Function "udf.reverse" not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) n
(gdb) b binaryCopy
Function "binaryCopy" not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) n
(gdb) b binarycopy
Function "binarycopy" not defined.
Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) n

gdb still find binarycopy and udf functions............


2013/6/29 Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
Please double-check your Makefile.ag and make sure it look like the one in the canonical UDF example.

Please double-check the messaged produced by your mserver5 at start-up.

Stefan

----- Original Message -----
> yes, i do follow the two page, but i didn't use the
> udf_impl.h<http://dev.monetdb.org/hg/MonetDB/file/a035a0351643/sql/backends/monet5/UDF/udf_impl.h>
> like
> file.
>
>
> 2013/6/29 Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
>
> > Did you follow the proper step to add a C-implemented UDF in
> > MonetDB?
> >
> > Cf.,
> >
> > http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Cookbooks/SQLrecipies/UserDefinedFunction
> > and
> > http://dev.monetdb.org/hg/MonetDB/file/tip/sql/backends/monet5/UDF
> >
> > for documentation and canonical example.
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > [svomhpc@localhost /home/data1]$>*sudo gdb
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/bin/mserver5 21260*
> > > [sudo] password for svomhpc:
> > > ............................
> > > Reading symbols from
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_lsst.so...done.
> > > Loaded symbols for
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_lsst.so
> > > Reading symbols from
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_ssdb.so...done.
> > > Loaded symbols for
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_ssdb.so
> > > Reading symbols from
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_udf.so...done.
> > > Loaded symbols for
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_udf.so
> > > Reading symbols from
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_opt_sql_append.so...done.
> > > Loaded symbols for
> > > /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5/lib_opt_sql_append.so
> > > ...................................................................
> > > (gdb) b binarycopy
> > > Function "binarycopy" not defined.
> > >
> > > accordiing to the above, the svom lib is not loaded.
> > >
> > >
> > > [svomhpc@localhost /home/data1/opt/MonetDB/lib/monetdb5]$>ll
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1180 Jun 28 11:18 lib_fits.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   66800 Jun 28 11:18 lib_fits.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1192 Jun 28 11:18 lib_geom.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   75821 Jun 28 11:18 lib_geom.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1170 Jun 28 11:18 lib_jaql.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc  434287 Jun 28 11:18 lib_jaql.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1170 Jun 28 11:18 lib_json.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc  217026 Jun 28 11:18 lib_json.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1170 Jun 28 11:18 lib_lsst.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   34435 Jun 28 11:18 lib_lsst.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1230 Jun 28 11:18
> > > lib_opt_sql_append.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   30396 Jun 28 11:18
> > > lib_opt_sql_append.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1164 Jun 28 11:18 lib_sql.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc 3026400 Jun 28 11:18 lib_sql.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1170 Jun 28 11:18 lib_ssdb.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc 1833811 Jun 28 11:18 lib_ssdb.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1164 Jun 28 11:18 *libsvom.la*
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   29015 Jun 28 11:18 *libsvom.so*
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1164 Jun 28 11:18 lib_udf.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   38231 Jun 28 11:18 lib_udf.so
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc    1176 Jun 28 11:18 lib_vault.la
> > > -rwxr-xr-x. 1 svomhpc svomhpc   42556 Jun 28 11:18 lib_vault.so
> > >
> > > i dont know why the name of libsvom.la is different from other
> > > libs,
> > > could
> > > anyone tell me  how to correct the name?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Meng Wan
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/26 Miguel Ping <miguel.ping@telecom.pt>
> > >
> > > >  I would do something like this:
> > > >
> > > > ps -ef | grep mserver5
> > > > > dude    27387 27358  0 17:46 ?        00:00:00
> > > > > /usr/local/bin/mserver5
> > > > --set gdk_d...
> > > > sudo gdb $(which mserver5) 27387
> > > >
> > > > (gdb) b binaryCopy
> > > > Breakpoint 1 at 0x7f71ef7b4000: file svom.c,...
> > > > (gdb) continue
> > > > <start mclient, test>
> > > >
> > > > But if the error happens before hitting your function, I don't
> > > > know
> > > > how to
> > > > debug.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 06/26/2013 08:10 AM, hlfwm hlfwm wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  i defined a user defined function "binarycopy",when i use my
> > > >  function,
> > > > there is error:
> > > >  sql>select binarycopy('starid','1111',1);
> > > > TypeException:user.s1_1[5]:'svom.binarycopy' undefined in:
> > > > _9:any
> > > > :=
> > > > svom.binarycopy(_6:str, _7:str, _8:int)
> > > > program contains errors
> > > >
> > > >  i want to debug the error with mal, there also some error:
> > > >
> > > >  [svomhpc@localhost /home/data1]$>mclient -l mal -u monetdb -d
> > > >  mydb4
> > > > password:
> > > > Welcome to mclient, the MonetDB interactive terminal
> > > > (unreleased)
> > > > Type \q to quit, \? for a list of available commands
> > > > mal>
> > > > mal>
> > > > mal>function test(i:int):str;
> > > > mal>io.print(i);
> > > > mal>i:=i*2;
> > > > mal>b:=bat.new(:int,:int);
> > > > mal>bat.insert(b,1,i);
> > > > mal>io.print(b);
> > > > mal>return test:= "ok";
> > > > mal>end test;
> > > > MAPI  = (monetdb) /tmp/.s.monetdb.50000
> > > > QUERY = end test;
> > > >  ERROR = !TypeException:user.test[3]:'bat.new' undefined in:
> > > >  b:any
> > > >  :=
> > > > bat.new(_5:int, _6:int)
> > > >         !TypeException:user.test[4]:'bat.insert' undefined in:
> > > >         _7:any :=
> > > > bat.insert(b:any, _8:int, i:int)
> > > > mal>
> > > >
> > > >  could anyone tell me how to debug my function ,please?
> > > >
> > > >  Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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