[Monetdb-developers] meeting notes
MonetDB developers
Today another MonetDB Meeting was held at the CWI. In this meeting we decided to aim for another MonetDB{SQL/XQuery} release on June 25. To reach this goal we are going for a Feature freeze (ie the usual release candidates and release branch) on June 1. So if you have any (well tested) interesting features too add please commit them before June 1.
The we are aiming for an Release with many new features. See http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Development/Roadmap/index.html for full details. Among these features are hopefully 'Xquery updates' and 'SQL triggers'.
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
Niels Nes
Niels Nes wrote:
MonetDB developers
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
During the meeting, the planning for a meta-CVS was identified as needed. This seems particular relevant for M5, because it could reduce install complexity.
Is this action finished before May 5?
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:25:43PM +0200, Martin Kersten wrote:
Niels Nes wrote:
MonetDB developers
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
During the meeting, the planning for a meta-CVS was identified as needed. This seems particular relevant for M5, because it could reduce install complexity.
Is this action finished before May 5?
I don't think so, but for the particular tarball release this isn't important. The discussed meta-CVS project is intended for simplifying the building of MonetDB projects. For example it will be responsible for the 'easy' build (on linux I guess) of Buildtools, MonetDB-4, SQL and Xquery, from CVS sources. Later this could also be used for M5.
Niels
- The "meta-CVS" (working title!) will not be finished by May 5 --- at least I will not be able to produce a usable verion by then.
- As Niels correctly pointed out (and as the name obviously indicates ;-)), "meta-CVS" is intended to simplify check-outs and builds of MonetDB and its companions *from CVS*, only (at least the first version; see next point). Hence, it is indeed not relevant for the M5 alpha release on May 5.
In my "vision" the M5 alpha release will be a tarball that is quite similar to the current source tarballs of MonetDB-4 and its companions, i.e., it builds via `configure ; make ; make install` and requires MonetDB-4 to be pre-installed. For now, who ever wants to use M5 need to take care of this --- which IMHO is not problem, given that a source-only distribution aims (mainly) at developers, and they should know how to install MonetDB-4 and how to build M5 from the (then) given tarball as sketched above...
- As "meta-CVS" is intended to work with the CVS sources, only, hte questions arises, whether we need a similar meta-wrapper for the source tarballs (and possibly also one for the source RPMs or a "meta-source-RPM"?) --- probably, the ideal solution is to eventually aim at a "meta-CVS" who's `make dist` creates a single tarball with the sources of MonetDB and all selected (or even ALL) companions included, which then requires a single ("meta-") `configure ; make ; make install` to build and install everything in one go --- I see what I can do, once the basic (CVS-only) "meta-CVS" can do it's own `[bootstrap ;] configure ; make ; make install` ...
Stefan
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:31:08PM +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 09:25:43PM +0200, Martin Kersten wrote:
Niels Nes wrote:
MonetDB developers
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
During the meeting, the planning for a meta-CVS was identified as needed. This seems particular relevant for M5, because it could reduce install complexity.
Is this action finished before May 5?
I don't think so, but for the particular tarball release this isn't important. The discussed meta-CVS project is intended for simplifying the building of MonetDB projects. For example it will be responsible for the 'easy' build (on linux I guess) of Buildtools, MonetDB-4, SQL and Xquery, from CVS sources. Later this could also be used for M5.
Niels
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Also, it was decided not to switch to SVN from CVS as some little pilots didn't show any significant improvements or benefits in comparison to the current situation.
On 27-04-2006 21:05:33 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
MonetDB developers
Today another MonetDB Meeting was held at the CWI. In this meeting we decided to aim for another MonetDB{SQL/XQuery} release on June 25. To reach this goal we are going for a Feature freeze (ie the usual release candidates and release branch) on June 1. So if you have any (well tested) interesting features too add please commit them before June 1.
The we are aiming for an Release with many new features. See http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Development/Roadmap/index.html for full details. Among these features are hopefully 'Xquery updates' and 'SQL triggers'.
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
Niels Nes
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Another point was the usage of mailing lists. That is MORE usage of the lists. As you might have noticed starting from this evening, we try to spam^Huse the mailing lists more often.
For those that do use it, I have a simple request: Please DO NOT Cc me or the mailing list if I or the list is also in the To field of you message. The message ends up being in more than one place due to some mail filters that split the traffic. Also when replying to the list, please make sure you don't send mail to me and CC the mailing list, but only send to the mailing list. Thanks.
On 27-04-2006 21:05:33 +0200, Niels Nes wrote:
MonetDB developers
Today another MonetDB Meeting was held at the CWI. In this meeting we decided to aim for another MonetDB{SQL/XQuery} release on June 25. To reach this goal we are going for a Feature freeze (ie the usual release candidates and release branch) on June 1. So if you have any (well tested) interesting features too add please commit them before June 1.
The we are aiming for an Release with many new features. See http://monetdb.cwi.nl/Development/Roadmap/index.html for full details. Among these features are hopefully 'Xquery updates' and 'SQL triggers'.
Before this MonetDB 4 release we are going for an alpha release via a 'tarball' of the MonetDB 5 development on May 05. This will be the first public release of the MonetDB 5 code base.
Niels Nes
participants (4)
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Fabian Groffen -
Martin Kersten -
Niels Nes -
Stefan Manegold