From sjoerd@acm.org Wed May  1 10:01:02 2013
From: Sjoerd Mullender <sjoerd@acm.org>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: How to get deleted space back from monetdb
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 10:01:02 +0200
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The way MonetDB works with respect to updates to a table (deletes and
changes) is to remember what was changed.  The original tables are
unaffected when it comes to these types of changes (the tables are
effectively append-only).  In a separate structure we remember the
tuples that were deleted so that you don't see them in query results.

This means that the only way to get back the space that was (and still
is!) occupied by deleted or changed tuples is to re-create the table.
 This can be done by copying to a new table, deleting everything from
the old table (or drop and recreate the table) and then copying back.
 This is tough if other tables have foreign key constraints that refer
to the table (and dropping a table is not possible if a view or
function refers to the table).  It can also be done by dumping the
database and restoring it.

There is no vacuum command.  See
http://bugs.monetdb.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2541 .

On 2013-04-30 15:41, Gaurav Meena wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have searched entire archive, and this question have been asked
> many times i.e. to get the space back from monetdb after deleting
> some rows in monetdb.
> 
> The answer I found was not consistent one of them was
> 
> COPY SELECT * FROM <table> INTO <file>; DELETE FROM <table>; COPY
> INTO <table> FROM <file>;
> 
> Which suggest that deleting rows (or cleaning??) table will get
> back the space.
> 
> One was from this question 
> http://mail.monetdb.org/pipermail/users-list/2011-July/005036.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 1) copy all table contents to another table, drop old table, copy
> again
> 
> 
> I have tried both deleting rows and then droping the table but the
> result was inconsistant. May be monetdb cleans up after some
> interval
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Other Related Questions were 1.
> http://mail.monetdb.org/pipermail/users-list/2010-March/003952.html
>
> 
> 
> 2. FEB 23, 2010
> 
> Reeves, Matthew J. wrote:
>> / Hello,
> />/ />/    I have a MonetDB database that contains a table of
> rolling events. />/ There are 200 million records with 500,000 bulk
> loaded each day with the />/ oldest 500,000 deleted at midnight.
> I'm finding the database gets slower />/ as time goes on. It gets
> to the point of being almost unusable after a />/ week. Is there
> something I should be doing different? /Hello Matthew, Thanks for
> using MonetDB. Interesting application target.
> 
> This is a known issue. The system keeps the deleted tuples and
> rebuilds the table. A vacuum-like feature is needed and on the
> wishlist. For now, taking a copy of the table would 'solve' your
> problem. regards, Martin
>> /
> />/ Thanks, />/ Matt />/
> 
> /
> 
> 
> Gaurav Meena
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From ahmad.hassan@sap.com Wed May  1 11:48:57 2013
From: "Hassan, Ahmad" <ahmad.hassan@sap.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: RE: Understanding strides in memory accesses
Date: Wed, 01 May 2013 09:48:43 +0000
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Hi Stefan,

Thanks. This is very useful to help me in digging the code further.

Kind Regards, Ahmad

-----Original Message-----
From: users-list [mailto:users-list-bounces+ahmad.hassan=3Dsap.com(a)monetdb.=
org] On Behalf Of Stefan Manegold
Sent: 29 April 2013 22:13
To: Communication channel for MonetDB users
Subject: Re: Understanding strides in memory accesses

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 06:43:09PM +0000, Hassan, Ahmad wrote:
> Hi All,
>=20
> I am analysing the monetdb memory access pattern to identify various stride=
s in LLC accesses. But most of the accesses per object are being observed as =
non-strided which is not what I expected. As monetdb involves BATs and these =
are arrays so I was thinking that there would be more strided pattern rather =
than random accesses unless BAT arrays are being treated as trees and random =
access is being used to access the items. To understand it further, I have no=
w retrieved the execution plan of TPCH Q1 and the plan has various segments l=
ike follows:
>=20
> X_455:bat[:oid,:str]  :=3D sql.bind(X_7,"sys","lineitem","l_linestatus",2,5=
,16);
> X_1346 :=3D algebra.kdifference(X_400,X_455);
> X_1379 :=3D algebra.kunion(X_1346,X_455);
> X_1412 :=3D algebra.leftjoin(X_1180,X_1379);
> (X_1452,X_1453) :=3D group.multicolumns(X_1293,X_1412);
> X_1514 :=3D bat.mirror(X_1452);
> X_1516 :=3D algebra.leftjoin(X_1514,X_1412);
>=20
> I have two questions:
>=20
>=20
> 1)  As there are many repeated segments like above in whole query plan, so =
what is the context behind multiple repeated segments please.

This is due to "mitosis", MonetDB way of exploiting multicore parallelism by
slicing one table (usually the largest) and replicating the query plan over
all slices. A more detailed description goes beyond what would fit here.

> 2)  I want to understand what is the input to most common operators like le=
ftjoin, kdifference, kunion and whether they process those inputs sequentiall=
y or randomly. What is the best way to get this understanding please? From th=
e plan it is obvious that the input is the BAT(s), but how do the operators a=
ccess the BAT is really a question.

BATs in MonetDB represent columns of relational tables, hence they represent
multi-sets, not trees.  While MonetDB aims at using sequential access where
ever efficiently feasible, we have no idea how to perform binary matching
set operations, such as intersection, difference or join with only
sequential access pattern (other than inherently inefficient nested loops).
Instead, MonetDB mostly relies on hash-based algorithms, which perform
sequential access on one BAT but inherently random access on the other.
For more details, feel free to study the code.

Best,
Stefan

> Thanks for the help.
>=20
> Kind Regards, Ahmad

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From budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com Thu May  2 01:26:13 2013
From: Budulinku Dejmihrasku <budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 01:25:47 +0200
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Hi,
please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the=20
upgrade with the same results
please advice
thanks a lot
milan

*test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
**----------------------------------*

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
                              'b' as c2,
                              'c' as c3,
                               1 as c4 )
    select  0 as c1,
          D1.c1 as c2,
          D1.c2 as c3,
          D1.c3 as c4,
          D1.c4 as c5
    from SAWITH0 D1

+------+------+------+------+------+
| c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
|    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
+------+------+------+------+------+


*test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all=20
columns)*
*----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----*

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
                              'b' as c2,
                              'c' as c3,
                                1 as c4 )
    select  0 as c1,
          D1.c1 as c2,
          D1.c2 as c3,
          D1.c3 as c4,
          D1.c4 as c5
    from SAWITH0 D1
    order by 5, 4, 3, 2
    --order by c5,c4,c3,c2

+------+------+------+------+------+
| c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
|    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
+------+------+------+------+------+
Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias=20
instead of the ord.num.

*
**test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
**-------------------------------------------------------------------*

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
                              'b' as c2,
                              'c' as c3,
                                1 as c4 )
    select  0 as c1,
          D1.c1 as a2,
          D1.c2 as a3,
          D1.c3 as a4,
          D1.c4 as a5
    from SAWITH0 D1
    order by 5, 4, 3, 2

+------+------+------+------+------+
| c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
|    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
+------+------+------+------+------+










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From Hannes.Muehleisen@cwi.nl Thu May  2 09:17:50 2013
From: Hannes =?utf-8?q?M=C3=BChleisen?= <Hannes.Muehleisen@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 09:17:49 +0200
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Hello Milan,

thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I have=20
confirmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544)=20
'default' development branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug report=20
at http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?

Thanks,

Hannes


On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
> Hi,
> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
> upgrade with the same results
> please advice
> thanks a lot
> milan
>
> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
> **----------------------------------*
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>                               'b' as c2,
>                               'c' as c3,
>                                1 as c4 )
>     select  0 as c1,
>           D1.c1 as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c3,
>           D1.c3 as c4,
>           D1.c4 as c5
>     from SAWITH0 D1
>
> +------+------+------+------+------+
> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
> +------+------+------+------+------+
>
>
> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all
> columns)*
> *--------------------------------------------------------------------------=
------*
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>                               'b' as c2,
>                               'c' as c3,
>                                 1 as c4 )
>     select  0 as c1,
>           D1.c1 as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c3,
>           D1.c3 as c4,
>           D1.c4 as c5
>     from SAWITH0 D1
>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>
> +------+------+------+------+------+
> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
> +------+------+------+------+------+
> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
> instead of the ord.num.
>
> *
> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>                               'b' as c2,
>                               'c' as c3,
>                                 1 as c4 )
>     select  0 as c1,
>           D1.c1 as a2,
>           D1.c2 as a3,
>           D1.c3 as a4,
>           D1.c4 as a5
>     from SAWITH0 D1
>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>
> +------+------+------+------+------+
> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
> +------+------+------+------+------+
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From gabor.urbanics@gmail.com Thu May  2 09:22:30 2013
From: Gabor Urbanics <gabor.urbanics@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: question about arrays in SciQL
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 09:22:29 +0200
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Hi All,

I have a question about MonetDB/SciQL, in particular regards to the
unbounded arrays and their updates.

I've created two arrays (one bounded and an unbounded) essentially with the
same schemata in my database as follows:
"""
sql>\d
ARRAY  sys.facts
ARRAY  sys.facts_bounded
sql>\d sys.source
CREATE TABLE "sys"."source" (
"x" INTEGER,
"y" INTEGER,
"v"  VARCHAR(32)
);
sql>\d sys.facts
CREATE ARRAY "sys"."facts" (
"x" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:1],
"y" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:*],
"v"  VARCHAR(32)
);
"""

My goal at the moment is to use the unbounded array as it would fit very
well the domain of my application: several coordinates-like columns and a
couple of attributes, but the ranges of the coordinates are not known
beforehand.

Unfortunately, I am facing some problems when I try to insert values into
the unbounded array:
"""
  sql>insert into sys.facts values (0,0,'42');
  0 affected rows (0.938ms)
"""

On the other hand, the same insert operation works just fine with the
bounded array:
"""
  sql>insert into sys.facts_bounded values (0,0,'42');
  1 affected row (20.594ms)
  sql>select * from sys.facts_bounded;
  +------+------+------+
  |  x   |  y   | v    |
  +======+======+======+
  |    0 |    0 | 42   |
  |    0 |    1 | null |
  ... (5 lines omitted for brevity)
  |    1 |    3 | null |
  +------+------+------+
  8 tuples (0.612ms)
"""

I would like to know if this is the supposed way one can insert values into
unbounded arrays or I am doing something wrong.

I compiled the source from the branch "sciql" from the mercurial repository
2 days ago, as my understanding was that the built versions do not support
SciQL. Is there any other way I can get a MonetDB with SciQL support?

If it helps anything, the beginning of the welcome message of the mserver5
is as follows:
"""
  # MonetDB 5 server v11.16.0
  # This is an unreleased version
  # Serving database 'monetdb5', using 4 threads
  # Compiled for x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically
linked
"""

Any help or suggestion is appreciated!

Best regards,
    Gabor



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From hollobon@gmail.com Thu May  2 09:23:10 2013
From: Pete Hollobon <hollobon@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 08:23:09 +0100
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I think this may be the same issue that I reported here:
http://bugs.monetdb.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3278

On 2 May 2013 08:17, Hannes M=C3=BChleisen <Hannes.Muehleisen(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> Hello Milan,
>
> thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I have
> confirmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544) 'default'
> development branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug report at
> http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hannes
>
>
>
> On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
>> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
>> upgrade with the same results
>> please advice
>> thanks a lot
>> milan
>>
>> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
>> **----------------------------------*
>>
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all
>> columns)*
>>
>> *-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------*
>>
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
>> instead of the ord.num.
>>
>> *
>> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
>> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as a2,
>>           D1.c2 as a3,
>>           D1.c3 as a4,
>>           D1.c4 as a5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From Y.Zhang@cwi.nl Thu May  2 13:31:27 2013
From: Ying Zhang <Y.Zhang@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: question about arrays in SciQL
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 13:31:38 +0200
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Hello Gabor,

First of all, thank you very much for you interest in MonetDB/SciQL.

Since the implementation of the SciQL language is still an ongoing work, comp=
ile the "sciql" branch from the Mercurial repository is the only way to get S=
ciQL support.

The incorrect results you got from inserting into unbounded array is because =
it's not supported yet.
Except creation, operations on unbounded arrays are generally not supported y=
et.
I have tried to give an error message for unsupported features, but there are=
 too many to cover them all.
My apologies for the confusion!

With kind regards,

Jennie

On May 02, 2013, at 09:22, Gabor Urbanics wrote:

> Hi All,
>=20
> I have a question about MonetDB/SciQL, in particular regards to the unbound=
ed arrays and their updates.
>=20
> I've created two arrays (one bounded and an unbounded) essentially with the=
 same schemata in my database as follows:
> """
> sql>\d
> ARRAY  sys.facts
> ARRAY  sys.facts_bounded
> sql>\d sys.source=20
> CREATE TABLE "sys"."source" (
> 	"x" INTEGER,
> 	"y" INTEGER,
> 	"v"  VARCHAR(32)
> );
> sql>\d sys.facts
> CREATE ARRAY "sys"."facts" (
> 	"x" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:1],
> 	"y" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:*],
> 	"v"  VARCHAR(32)
> );
> """
>=20
> My goal at the moment is to use the unbounded array as it would fit very we=
ll the domain of my application: several coordinates-like columns and a coupl=
e of attributes, but the ranges of the coordinates are not known beforehand.
>=20
> Unfortunately, I am facing some problems when I try to insert values into t=
he unbounded array:
> """
>   sql>insert into sys.facts values (0,0,'42');
>   0 affected rows (0.938ms)
> """
>=20
> On the other hand, the same insert operation works just fine with the bound=
ed array:
> """
>   sql>insert into sys.facts_bounded values (0,0,'42');
>   1 affected row (20.594ms)
>   sql>select * from sys.facts_bounded;
>   +------+------+------+
>   |  x   |  y   | v    |
>   +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>   |    0 |    0 | 42   |
>   |    0 |    1 | null |
>   ... (5 lines omitted for brevity)
>   |    1 |    3 | null |
>   +------+------+------+
>   8 tuples (0.612ms)
> """
>=20
> I would like to know if this is the supposed way one can insert values into=
 unbounded arrays or I am doing something wrong.
>=20
> I compiled the source from the branch "sciql" from the mercurial repository=
 2 days ago, as my understanding was that the built versions do not support S=
ciQL. Is there any other way I can get a MonetDB with SciQL support?=20
>=20
> If it helps anything, the beginning of the welcome message of the mserver5 =
is as follows:
> """
>   # MonetDB 5 server v11.16.0
>   # This is an unreleased version
>   # Serving database 'monetdb5', using 4 threads
>   # Compiled for x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically=
 linked
> """
>=20
> Any help or suggestion is appreciated!
>=20
> Best regards,
>     Gabor
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
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From budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com Thu May  2 14:18:46 2013
From: Budulinku Dejmihrasku <budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 14:18:06 +0200
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*bug #3279* <http://bugs.monetdb.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3279> created
m.

On 5/2/2013 9:17 AM, Hannes M=C3=BChleisen wrote:
> Hello Milan,
>
> thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I have=20
> confirmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544)=20
> 'default' development branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug=20
> report at http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hannes
>
>
> On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>> Hi,
>> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
>> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
>> upgrade with the same results
>> please advice
>> thanks a lot
>> milan
>>
>> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
>> **----------------------------------*
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all
>> columns)*
>> *-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------*=20
>>
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
>> instead of the ord.num.
>>
>> *
>> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
>> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as a2,
>>           D1.c2 as a3,
>>           D1.c3 as a4,
>>           D1.c4 as a5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com Thu May  2 20:48:28 2013
From: Budulinku Dejmihrasku <budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 20:47:37 +0200
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In-Reply-To: <5182131D.1010201@cwi.nl>
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Hi,
since you like my test cases i have another few for you - to make sure=20
its the same problem, although i think it gets worse...
originally we started with much more complex query but after some=20
cleansing it boiled down to similar issue - i.e. the alias seems to be=20
the culprit now, slightly different behavior though... see the testcase=20
7, the worst of them all which produces "killed by signal SIGSEGV"

shall i add this to the same bug or create a new one?
pls advice
thanks
milan



Test Case 4 - will emit error
-----------------------------

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
          SAWITH1 AS ( select  5 as c2, null as c4
                      UNION ALL
                       select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
    ( select
          cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
          D1.c2 as c7
        from  SAWITH0 D1
    union all
      select
          D1.c4 as c2,
          D1.c2 as c7
        from  SAWITH1 D1 )

Note: plain UNION will fail too emitting even more errors


Test Case 5 - correct (note different alias c200000 instead of c2)
------------------------------------------------------------------------

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
         SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
                   UNION ALL
                   select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
    (select
          cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c200000,
          D1.c2 as c7
    from  SAWITH0 D1
    union all
    select
          D1.c4 as c200000,
          D1.c2 as c7
    from  SAWITH1 D1 )


Test Case 6, modification of #4, just one query from the UNION- correct
------------------------------------------------------------------------

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
         SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
                   UNION ALL
                   select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
    select
          cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
          D1.c2 as c7
    from  SAWITH0 D1


Test Case 7, add ORDER BYto #6 - error (SIGSEGV)
------------------------------------------------------------------------

    WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
         SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
                   UNION ALL
                   select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
    select
          cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
          D1.c2 as c7
    from  SAWITH0 D1
    ORDER BY 1




On 5/2/2013 9:17 AM, Hannes M=C3=BChleisen wrote:
> Hello Milan,
>
> thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I have=20
> confirmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544)=20
> 'default' development branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug=20
> report at http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hannes
>
>
> On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>> Hi,
>> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
>> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
>> upgrade with the same results
>> please advice
>> thanks a lot
>> milan
>>
>> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
>> **----------------------------------*
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all
>> columns)*
>> *-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------*=20
>>
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
>> instead of the ord.num.
>>
>> *
>> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
>> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>                               'b' as c2,
>>                               'c' as c3,
>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>     select  0 as c1,
>>           D1.c1 as a2,
>>           D1.c2 as a3,
>>           D1.c3 as a4,
>>           D1.c4 as a5
>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From martin@monetdb.org Thu May  2 21:25:38 2013
From: Martin Kersten <martin@monetdb.org>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 21:25:36 +0200
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Hi

Sometimes bugs are like ants, they come in groups and any concise collection
of test cases to improve the code are indeed highly appreciated.

regards, Martin Kersten

On 5/2/13 8:47 PM, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
> Hi,
> since you like my test cases i have another few for you - to make sure its =
the same problem, although i think it gets worse...
> originally we started with much more complex query but after some cleansing=
 it boiled down to similar issue - i.e. the alias seems to be the culprit now=
, slightly different behavior though... see the testcase 7, the worst of them=
 all which produces "killed
> by signal SIGSEGV"
>
> shall i add this to the same bug or create a new one?
> pls advice
> thanks
> milan
>
>
>
> Test Case 4 - will emit error
> -----------------------------
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>           SAWITH1 AS ( select  5 as c2, null as c4
>                       UNION ALL
>                        select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>     ( select
>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>         from  SAWITH0 D1
>     union all
>       select
>           D1.c4 as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>         from  SAWITH1 D1 )
>
> Note: plain UNION will fail too emitting even more errors
>
>
> Test Case 5 - correct (note different alias c200000 instead of c2)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>                    UNION ALL
>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>     (select
>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c200000,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>     union all
>     select
>           D1.c4 as c200000,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>     from  SAWITH1 D1 )
>
>
> Test Case 6, modification of #4, just one query from the UNION- correct
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>                    UNION ALL
>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>     select
>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>
>
> Test Case 7, add ORDER BYto #6 - error (SIGSEGV)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>                    UNION ALL
>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>     select
>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>           D1.c2 as c7
>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>     ORDER BY 1
>
>
>
>
> On 5/2/2013 9:17 AM, Hannes M=C3=BChleisen wrote:
>> Hello Milan,
>>
>> thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I have con=
firmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544) 'default' develo=
pment branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug report at http://bugs.monet=
db.org/ ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Hannes
>>
>>
>> On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
>>> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
>>> upgrade with the same results
>>> please advice
>>> thanks a lot
>>> milan
>>>
>>> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
>>> **----------------------------------*
>>>
>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>                                1 as c4 )
>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>
>>>
>>> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value for all
>>> columns)*
>>> *------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------*
>>>
>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>>>
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
>>> instead of the ord.num.
>>>
>>> *
>>> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by - correct **
>>> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>>
>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>           D1.c1 as a2,
>>>           D1.c2 as a3,
>>>           D1.c3 as a4,
>>>           D1.c4 as a5
>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>>
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From ajdamico@gmail.com Thu May  2 22:07:03 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject:
 should I be able to CAST a BOOLEAN type to a DOUBLE ( zero-one ) variable?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 16:06:42 -0400
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I tried lots of different things (pasted below) and none of them worked.

I ended up using a CASE statement which worked around the issue, but I
would've thought something like the command..

SELECT ( ( COLNAME > 0 )*1.000 ) AS ANY_VALUE FROM TABLENAME ;

..should give a valid response instead of an error?  But I'm not sure if
MonetDB wants to support this type of CAST/CONVERT operation?  (None of the
things I tried worked, not just the on-the-fly multiplication by 1.000).

Using Feb2013-SP2 on Windows x86_64

If MonetDB should be able to convert TRUE/FALSE values to numerics, I'll
submit a bug report with some PLAN and EXPLAIN results?  :)


Thanks for the great software!!




sql>select ( mpg > 10 ) from mtcars ;
+-------+
| >_mpg |
+=======+
| null  |
| null  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| null  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
+-------+
32 tuples (15.010ms)
sql>select ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s11_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s11_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s12_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s12_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg >= 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s13_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s13_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) from mtcars ;
+--------+
| >=_mpg |
+========+
| null   |
| null   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| null   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
+--------+
32 tuples (103.019ms)
sql>select CAST( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) as DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >= 10 )
)"
sql>select CAST( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >= 10 )
)"
sql>select CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected FROM, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10
as do
uble ) from"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 AS DOUBLE ) as x from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected AS, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 as
doub
le ) as"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE  as x from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select CONVERT( double , mpg > 10 ) as x from mtcars;
syntax error, unexpected sqlDOUBLE in: "select convert( double"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) from mtcars ;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>select CAST( TRUE*1.000 as double ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s15_2[11]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _21:any :=
calc.sht(_20:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
program contains errors
sql>select CAST( 'TRUE' as bit ) as z from mtcars;
type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( 'TRUE' as bit )"
syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as bit ) as z from mtcars;
type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( true as bit )"
syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) as z from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Thu May  2 22:24:12 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: should I be able to CAST a BOOLEAN type to a DOUBLE ( zero-one )
 variable?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 22:24:06 +0200
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cast syntax is "cast( <expression> as type )"

Anthony Damico <ajdamico(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I tried lots of different things (pasted below) and none of them worked.

I ended up using a CASE statement which worked around the issue, but I
would've thought something like the command..

SELECT ( ( COLNAME > 0 )*1.000 ) AS ANY_VALUE FROM TABLENAME ;

..should give a valid response instead of an error?  But I'm not sure if
MonetDB wants to support this type of CAST/CONVERT operation?  (None of the
things I tried worked, not just the on-the-fly multiplication by 1.000).

Using Feb2013-SP2 on Windows x86_64

If MonetDB should be able to convert TRUE/FALSE values to numerics, I'll
submit a bug report with some PLAN and EXPLAIN results?  :)


Thanks for the great software!!




sql>select ( mpg > 10 ) from mtcars ;
+-------+
| >_mpg |
+=======+
| null  |
| null  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| null  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| true  |
| null  |
| true  |
| true  |
+-------+
32 tuples (15.010ms)
sql>select ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s11_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s11_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s12_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s12_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg >= 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s13_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=
calc.sht(_57:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
TypeException:user.s13_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=
bat.insert(_5
2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
program contains errors
sql>select ( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) from mtcars ;
+--------+
| >=_mpg |
+========+
| null   |
| null   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| null   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| true   |
| null   |
| true   |
| true   |
+--------+
32 tuples (103.019ms)
sql>select CAST( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) as DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >= 10 )
)"
sql>select CAST( ( mpg >= 10 ) ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >= 10 )
)"
sql>select CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected FROM, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10
as do
uble ) from"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 AS DOUBLE ) as x from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected AS, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 as
doub
le ) as"
sql>select ( CAST( mpg >= 10 ) AS DOUBLE  as x from mtcars ;
syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >= 10 )"
sql>select CONVERT( double , mpg > 10 ) as x from mtcars;
syntax error, unexpected sqlDOUBLE in: "select convert( double"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) from mtcars ;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>select CAST( TRUE*1.000 as double ) from mtcars ;
TypeException:user.s15_2[11]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _21:any :=
calc.sht(_20:bi
t, _22:int, _23:int)
program contains errors
sql>select CAST( 'TRUE' as bit ) as z from mtcars;
type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( 'TRUE' as bit )"
syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as bit ) as z from mtcars;
type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( true as bit )"
syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) as z from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>

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From ajdamico@gmail.com Thu May  2 22:42:47 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: should I be able to CAST a BOOLEAN type to a DOUBLE ( zero-one )
 variable?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 16:42:24 -0400
Message-ID:
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Thanks Stefan..  should these commands have worked, then?  They do not for
me..  Sorry if I'm making a beginner's mistake..


sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double precision ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>explain select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>plan select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>explain select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>plan select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
sql>






On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl>wro=
te:

> cast syntax is "cast( <expression> as type )"
>
> Anthony Damico <ajdamico(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I tried lots of different things (pasted below) and none of them worked.
>
> I ended up using a CASE statement which worked around the issue, but I
> would've thought something like the command..
>
> SELECT ( ( COLNAME > 0 )*1.000 ) AS ANY_VALUE FROM TABLENAME ;
>
> ..should give a valid response instead of an error?  But I'm not sure if
> MonetDB wants to support this type of CAST/CONVERT operation?  (None of the
> things I tried worked, not just the on-the-fly multiplication by 1.000).
>
> Using Feb2013-SP2 on Windows x86_64
>
> If MonetDB should be able to convert TRUE/FALSE values to numerics, I'll
> submit a bug report with some PLAN and EXPLAIN results?  :)
>
>
> Thanks for the great software!!
>
>
>
>
> sql>select ( mpg > 10 ) from mtcars ;
> +-------+
> | >_mpg |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> | null  |
> | null  |
> | true  |
> | null  |
> | true  |
> | null  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | null  |
> | null  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> | null  |
> | true  |
> | true  |
> +-------+
> 32 tuples (15.010ms)
> sql>select ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 from mtcars ;
> TypeException:user.s11_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
> calc.sht(_57:bi
> t, _22:int, _23:int)
> TypeException:user.s11_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
> bat.insert(_5
> 2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
> program contains errors
> sql>select ( ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
> TypeException:user.s12_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
> calc.sht(_57:bi
> t, _22:int, _23:int)
> TypeException:user.s12_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
> bat.insert(_5
> 2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
> program contains errors
> sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
> TypeException:user.s13_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
> calc.sht(_57:bi
> t, _22:int, _23:int)
> TypeException:user.s13_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
> bat.insert(_5
> 2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
> program contains errors
> sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) from mtcars ;
> +--------+
> | >=3D_mpg |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> | null   |
> | null   |
> | true   |
> | null   |
> | true   |
> | null   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | null   |
> | null   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> | null   |
> | true   |
> | true   |
> +--------+
> 32 tuples (103.019ms)
> sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) as DOUBLE from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >=3D 10 )
> )"
> sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg >=3D 10 )
> )"
> sql>select CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( mpg >=3D 10 )"
> sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >=3D 10 =
)"
> sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected FROM, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >=3D 10
> as do
> uble ) from"
> sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) as x from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected AS, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg >=3D 10 =
as
> doub
> le ) as"
> sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE  as x from mtcars ;
> syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg >=3D 10 =
)"
> sql>select CONVERT( double , mpg > 10 ) as x from mtcars;
> syntax error, unexpected sqlDOUBLE in: "select convert( double"
> sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) from mtcars ;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>select CAST( TRUE*1.000 as double ) from mtcars ;
> TypeException:user.s15_2[11]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _21:any :=3D
> calc.sht(_20:bi
> t, _22:int, _23:int)
> program contains errors
> sql>select CAST( 'TRUE' as bit ) as z from mtcars;
> type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( 'TRUE' as bit )"
> syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
> sql>select CAST( TRUE as bit ) as z from mtcars;
> type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( true as bit )"
> syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
> sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) as z from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>
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From Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl Thu May  2 22:51:24 2013
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: should I be able to CAST a BOOLEAN type to a DOUBLE ( zero-one )
 variable?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 22:51:14 +0200
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Not all direct type cast are supported.
In particular, this one is not.
You can use the following hack

select (cast (cast (am > 0 as integer) as double)...

regards, Martin
On 5/2/13 10:42 PM, Anthony Damico wrote:
> Thanks Stefan..  should these commands have worked, then?  They do not
> for me..  Sorry if I'm making a beginner's mistake..
>
>
> sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double precision ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>explain select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>plan select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>explain select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>plan select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
> sql>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl
> <mailto:Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl>> wrote:
>
>     cast syntax is "cast( <expression> as type )"
>
>     Anthony Damico <ajdamico(a)gmail.com <mailto:ajdamico(a)gmail.com>> wro=
te:
>
>     I tried lots of different things (pasted below) and none of them worked.
>
>     I ended up using a CASE statement which worked around the issue, but I
>     would've thought something like the command..
>
>     SELECT ( ( COLNAME > 0 )*1.000 ) AS ANY_VALUE FROM TABLENAME ;
>
>     ..should give a valid response instead of an error?  But I'm not sure if
>     MonetDB wants to support this type of CAST/CONVERT operation?  (None
>     of the
>     things I tried worked, not just the on-the-fly multiplication by 1.000).
>
>     Using Feb2013-SP2 on Windows x86_64
>
>     If MonetDB should be able to convert TRUE/FALSE values to numerics, I'll
>     submit a bug report with some PLAN and EXPLAIN results?  :)
>
>
>     Thanks for the great software!!
>
>
>
>
>     sql>select ( mpg > 10 ) from mtcars ;
>     +-------+
>     | >_mpg |
>     +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>     | null  |
>     | null  |
>     | true  |
>     | null  |
>     | true  |
>     | null  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | null  |
>     | null  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     | null  |
>     | true  |
>     | true  |
>     +-------+
>     32 tuples (15.010ms)
>     sql>select ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 from mtcars ;
>     TypeException:user.s11_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>     TypeException:user.s11_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>     bat.insert(_5
>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>     program contains errors
>     sql>select ( ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
>     TypeException:user.s12_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>     TypeException:user.s12_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>     bat.insert(_5
>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>     program contains errors
>     sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
>     TypeException:user.s13_2[15]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>     TypeException:user.s13_2[17]:'bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>     bat.insert(_5
>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>     program contains errors
>     sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) from mtcars ;
>     +--------+
>     | >=3D_mpg |
>     +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>     | null   |
>     | null   |
>     | true   |
>     | null   |
>     | true   |
>     | null   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | null   |
>     | null   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     | null   |
>     | true   |
>     | true   |
>     +--------+
>     32 tuples (103.019ms)
>     sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) as DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg
>      >=3D 10 )
>     )"
>     sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg
>      >=3D 10 )
>     )"
>     sql>select CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( mpg >=3D
>     10 )"
>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg
>      >=3D 10 )"
>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected FROM, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg
>      >=3D 10
>     as do
>     uble ) from"
>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) as x from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected AS, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg
>      >=3D 10 as
>     doub
>     le ) as"
>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE  as x from mtcars ;
>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg
>      >=3D 10 )"
>     sql>select CONVERT( double , mpg > 10 ) as x from mtcars;
>     syntax error, unexpected sqlDOUBLE in: "select convert( double"
>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) from mtcars ;
>     types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>     sql>select CAST( TRUE*1.000 as double ) from mtcars ;
>     TypeException:user.s15_2[11]:'calc.sht' undefined in: _21:any :=3D
>     calc.sht(_20:bi
>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>     program contains errors
>     sql>select CAST( 'TRUE' as bit ) as z from mtcars;
>     type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( 'TRUE' as bit )"
>     syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as bit ) as z from mtcars;
>     type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( true as bit )"
>     syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) as z from mtcars;
>     types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>     sql>
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From ajdamico@gmail.com Thu May  2 23:15:59 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: should I be able to CAST a BOOLEAN type to a DOUBLE ( zero-one )
 variable?
Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 17:15:37 -0400
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Sneaky.  Perfect..  Thank you!!!


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>wrote:

> Not all direct type cast are supported.
> In particular, this one is not.
> You can use the following hack
>
> select (cast (cast (am > 0 as integer) as double)...
>
> regards, Martin
>
> On 5/2/13 10:42 PM, Anthony Damico wrote:
>
>> Thanks Stefan..  should these commands have worked, then?  They do not
>> for me..  Sorry if I'm making a beginner's mistake..
>>
>>
>> sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double precision ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>explain select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>plan select cast( ( am > 0 ) as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>explain select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>plan select cast( TRUE as double ) as colname from mtcars;
>> types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>> sql>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl
>> <mailto:Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl**>> wrote:
>>
>>     cast syntax is "cast( <expression> as type )"
>>
>>     Anthony Damico <ajdamico(a)gmail.com <mailto:ajdamico(a)gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     I tried lots of different things (pasted below) and none of them
>> worked.
>>
>>     I ended up using a CASE statement which worked around the issue, but I
>>     would've thought something like the command..
>>
>>     SELECT ( ( COLNAME > 0 )*1.000 ) AS ANY_VALUE FROM TABLENAME ;
>>
>>     ..should give a valid response instead of an error?  But I'm not sure
>> if
>>     MonetDB wants to support this type of CAST/CONVERT operation?  (None
>>     of the
>>     things I tried worked, not just the on-the-fly multiplication by
>> 1.000).
>>
>>     Using Feb2013-SP2 on Windows x86_64
>>
>>     If MonetDB should be able to convert TRUE/FALSE values to numerics,
>> I'll
>>     submit a bug report with some PLAN and EXPLAIN results?  :)
>>
>>
>>     Thanks for the great software!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     sql>select ( mpg > 10 ) from mtcars ;
>>     +-------+
>>     | >_mpg |
>>     +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>     | null  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | null  |
>>     | true  |
>>     | true  |
>>     +-------+
>>     32 tuples (15.010ms)
>>     sql>select ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 from mtcars ;
>>     TypeException:user.s11_2[15]:'**calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>>     TypeException:user.s11_2[17]:'**bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>>     bat.insert(_5
>>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>>     program contains errors
>>     sql>select ( ( mpg > 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
>>     TypeException:user.s12_2[15]:'**calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>>     TypeException:user.s12_2[17]:'**bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>>     bat.insert(_5
>>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>>     program contains errors
>>     sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 )*1.000 ) from mtcars ;
>>     TypeException:user.s13_2[15]:'**calc.sht' undefined in: _59:any :=3D
>>     calc.sht(_57:bi
>>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>>     TypeException:user.s13_2[17]:'**bat.insert' undefined in: _62:any :=3D
>>     bat.insert(_5
>>     2:bat[:oid,:sht], _60:oid, _59:any)
>>     program contains errors
>>     sql>select ( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) from mtcars ;
>>     +--------+
>>     | >=3D_mpg |
>>     +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>     | null   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | null   |
>>     | true   |
>>     | true   |
>>     +--------+
>>     32 tuples (103.019ms)
>>     sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) as DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg
>>      >=3D 10 )
>>     )"
>>     sql>select CAST( ( mpg >=3D 10 ) ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( ( mpg
>>      >=3D 10 )
>>     )"
>>     sql>select CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select cast( mpg >=3D
>>     10 )"
>>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg
>>      >=3D 10 )"
>>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected FROM, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg
>>      >=3D 10
>>     as do
>>     uble ) from"
>>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 AS DOUBLE ) as x from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected AS, expecting ')' in: "select ( cast( mpg
>>      >=3D 10 as
>>     doub
>>     le ) as"
>>     sql>select ( CAST( mpg >=3D 10 ) AS DOUBLE  as x from mtcars ;
>>     syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting AS in: "select ( cast( mpg
>>      >=3D 10 )"
>>     sql>select CONVERT( double , mpg > 10 ) as x from mtcars;
>>     syntax error, unexpected sqlDOUBLE in: "select convert( double"
>>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) from mtcars ;
>>     types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>>     sql>select CAST( TRUE*1.000 as double ) from mtcars ;
>>     TypeException:user.s15_2[11]:'**calc.sht' undefined in: _21:any :=3D
>>     calc.sht(_20:bi
>>     t, _22:int, _23:int)
>>     program contains errors
>>     sql>select CAST( 'TRUE' as bit ) as z from mtcars;
>>     type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( 'TRUE' as bit )"
>>     syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
>>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as bit ) as z from mtcars;
>>     type (bit) unknown in: "select cast( true as bit )"
>>     syntax error, unexpected AS in: "as"
>>     sql>select CAST( TRUE as double ) as z from mtcars;
>>     types boolean(1,0) and double(53,0) are not equal
>>     sql>
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From gabor.urbanics@gmail.com Fri May  3 08:00:21 2013
From: Gabor Urbanics <gabor.urbanics@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: question about arrays in SciQL
Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 08:00:19 +0200
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Hi Jennie,

Thanks for the apt response! Is it the same with altering a _bounded_
array? So e.g. the query

alter table "my_bounded_array" alter column X integer dimension[1:1:10]

is not supposed to increase X's cardinality if it originally was defined as
dimension[1:1:5], isn't it?

Thanks again!

Best regards,
    Gabor

On 2 May 2013 13:31, Ying Zhang <Y.Zhang(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> Hello Gabor,
>
> First of all, thank you very much for you interest in MonetDB/SciQL.
>
> Since the implementation of the SciQL language is still an ongoing work,
> compile the "sciql" branch from the Mercurial repository is the only way to
> get SciQL support.
>
> The incorrect results you got from inserting into unbounded array is
> because it's not supported yet.
> Except creation, operations on unbounded arrays are generally not
> supported yet.
> I have tried to give an error message for unsupported features, but there
> are too many to cover them all.
> My apologies for the confusion!
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Jennie
>
> On May 02, 2013, at 09:22, Gabor Urbanics wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a question about MonetDB/SciQL, in particular regards to the
> unbounded arrays and their updates.
> >
> > I've created two arrays (one bounded and an unbounded) essentially with
> the same schemata in my database as follows:
> > """
> > sql>\d
> > ARRAY  sys.facts
> > ARRAY  sys.facts_bounded
> > sql>\d sys.source
> > CREATE TABLE "sys"."source" (
> >       "x" INTEGER,
> >       "y" INTEGER,
> >       "v"  VARCHAR(32)
> > );
> > sql>\d sys.facts
> > CREATE ARRAY "sys"."facts" (
> >       "x" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:1],
> >       "y" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:*],
> >       "v"  VARCHAR(32)
> > );
> > """
> >
> > My goal at the moment is to use the unbounded array as it would fit very
> well the domain of my application: several coordinates-like columns and a
> couple of attributes, but the ranges of the coordinates are not known
> beforehand.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am facing some problems when I try to insert values
> into the unbounded array:
> > """
> >   sql>insert into sys.facts values (0,0,'42');
> >   0 affected rows (0.938ms)
> > """
> >
> > On the other hand, the same insert operation works just fine with the
> bounded array:
> > """
> >   sql>insert into sys.facts_bounded values (0,0,'42');
> >   1 affected row (20.594ms)
> >   sql>select * from sys.facts_bounded;
> >   +------+------+------+
> >   |  x   |  y   | v    |
> >   +======+======+======+
> >   |    0 |    0 | 42   |
> >   |    0 |    1 | null |
> >   ... (5 lines omitted for brevity)
> >   |    1 |    3 | null |
> >   +------+------+------+
> >   8 tuples (0.612ms)
> > """
> >
> > I would like to know if this is the supposed way one can insert values
> into unbounded arrays or I am doing something wrong.
> >
> > I compiled the source from the branch "sciql" from the mercurial
> repository 2 days ago, as my understanding was that the built versions do
> not support SciQL. Is there any other way I can get a MonetDB with SciQL
> support?
> >
> > If it helps anything, the beginning of the welcome message of the
> mserver5 is as follows:
> > """
> >   # MonetDB 5 server v11.16.0
> >   # This is an unreleased version
> >   # Serving database 'monetdb5', using 4 threads
> >   # Compiled for x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/64bit with 64bit OIDs
> dynamically linked
> > """
> >
> > Any help or suggestion is appreciated!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >     Gabor
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com Fri May  3 09:09:55 2013
From: Budulinku Dejmihrasku <budulinku.dejmihrasku@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: column alias combined with ORDER BY returns wrong data
Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 09:09:45 +0200
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i take this as a yes and i choose to interpret the yes as a hint to add=20
this to the existing bug ;)
m

On 5/2/2013 9:25 PM, Martin Kersten wrote:
> Hi
>
> Sometimes bugs are like ants, they come in groups and any concise=20
> collection
> of test cases to improve the code are indeed highly appreciated.
>
> regards, Martin Kersten
>
> On 5/2/13 8:47 PM, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>> Hi,
>> since you like my test cases i have another few for you - to make=20
>> sure its the same problem, although i think it gets worse...
>> originally we started with much more complex query but after some=20
>> cleansing it boiled down to similar issue - i.e. the alias seems to=20
>> be the culprit now, slightly different behavior though... see the=20
>> testcase 7, the worst of them all which produces "killed
>> by signal SIGSEGV"
>>
>> shall i add this to the same bug or create a new one?
>> pls advice
>> thanks
>> milan
>>
>>
>>
>> Test Case 4 - will emit error
>> -----------------------------
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>>           SAWITH1 AS ( select  5 as c2, null as c4
>>                       UNION ALL
>>                        select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>>     ( select
>>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>         from  SAWITH0 D1
>>     union all
>>       select
>>           D1.c4 as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>         from  SAWITH1 D1 )
>>
>> Note: plain UNION will fail too emitting even more errors
>>
>>
>> Test Case 5 - correct (note different alias c200000 instead of c2)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>>                    UNION ALL
>>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>>     (select
>>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c200000,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>>     union all
>>     select
>>           D1.c4 as c200000,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>     from  SAWITH1 D1 )
>>
>>
>> Test Case 6, modification of #4, just one query from the UNION- correct
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>>                    UNION ALL
>>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>>     select
>>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>>
>>
>> Test Case 7, add ORDER BYto #6 - error (SIGSEGV)
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 2 as c2 ),
>>          SAWITH1 AS (select  5 as c2, null as c4
>>                    UNION ALL
>>                    select  5 as c2, 'x' as c4  )
>>     select
>>           cast(NULL as  VARCHAR ( 1 ) ) as c2,
>>           D1.c2 as c7
>>     from  SAWITH0 D1
>>     ORDER BY 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/2/2013 9:17 AM, Hannes M=C3=BChleisen wrote:
>>> Hello Milan,
>>>
>>> thank you for your bug report and easy-to-reproduce test cases. I=20
>>> have confirmed this issue, it is also present in the current (47544)=20
>>> 'default' development branch. Would you be so nice and open a bug=20
>>> report at http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Hannes
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/05/13 01:25, Budulinku Dejmihrasku wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> please note the test cases below - it should be self-explanatory
>>>> i am on MonetDB v11.15.7 (Feb2013-SP2), i run the test before the
>>>> upgrade with the same results
>>>> please advice
>>>> thanks a lot
>>>> milan
>>>>
>>>> *test case 1, no ORDER BY - correct**
>>>> **----------------------------------*
>>>>
>>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>>                                1 as c4 )
>>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>>
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *test case 2, add ORDER BY - wrong result (repeats the 1st value=20
>>>> for all
>>>> columns)*
>>>> *-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---------*=20
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>>           D1.c1 as c2,
>>>>           D1.c2 as c3,
>>>>           D1.c3 as c4,
>>>>           D1.c4 as c5
>>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>>>     --order by c5,c4,c3,c2
>>>>
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>> | c1   | c2   | c3   | c4   | c5   |
>>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>>> |    0 | a    | a    | a    | a    |
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>> Note that the result is the same even if you use the column alias
>>>> instead of the ord.num.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> **test case 3, use completely different alias with order by -=20
>>>> correct **
>>>> **-------------------------------------------------------------------*
>>>>
>>>>     WITH SAWITH0 AS ( select 'a' as c1,
>>>>                               'b' as c2,
>>>>                               'c' as c3,
>>>>                                 1 as c4 )
>>>>     select  0 as c1,
>>>>           D1.c1 as a2,
>>>>           D1.c2 as a3,
>>>>           D1.c3 as a4,
>>>>           D1.c4 as a5
>>>>     from SAWITH0 D1
>>>>     order by 5, 4, 3, 2
>>>>
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>> | c1   | a2   | a3   | a4   | a5   |
>>>> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
>>>> |    0 | a    | b    | c    |    1 |
>>>> +------+------+------+------+------+
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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From Y.Zhang@cwi.nl Fri May  3 10:28:17 2013
From: Ying Zhang <Y.Zhang@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: question about arrays in SciQL
Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 10:28:18 +0200
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Hello Gabor,

That's true.  I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail that you can have a l=
ook at the sql/test/sciql/Tests/All file,  the enabled tests there indicate i=
mplemented features.

Regards,

Jennie


On May 03, 2013, at 08:00, Gabor Urbanics wrote:

> Hi Jennie,=20
>=20
> Thanks for the apt response! Is it the same with altering a _bounded_ array=
? So e.g. the query
>=20
> alter table "my_bounded_array" alter column X integer dimension[1:1:10]
>=20
> is not supposed to increase X's cardinality if it originally was defined as=
 dimension[1:1:5], isn't it?
>=20
> Thanks again!
>=20
> Best regards,
>     Gabor
>=20
> On 2 May 2013 13:31, Ying Zhang <Y.Zhang(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> Hello Gabor,
>=20
> First of all, thank you very much for you interest in MonetDB/SciQL.
>=20
> Since the implementation of the SciQL language is still an ongoing work, co=
mpile the "sciql" branch from the Mercurial repository is the only way to get=
 SciQL support.
>=20
> The incorrect results you got from inserting into unbounded array is becaus=
e it's not supported yet.
> Except creation, operations on unbounded arrays are generally not supported=
 yet.
> I have tried to give an error message for unsupported features, but there a=
re too many to cover them all.
> My apologies for the confusion!
>=20
> With kind regards,
>=20
> Jennie
>=20
> On May 02, 2013, at 09:22, Gabor Urbanics wrote:
>=20
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have a question about MonetDB/SciQL, in particular regards to the unbou=
nded arrays and their updates.
> >
> > I've created two arrays (one bounded and an unbounded) essentially with t=
he same schemata in my database as follows:
> > """
> > sql>\d
> > ARRAY  sys.facts
> > ARRAY  sys.facts_bounded
> > sql>\d sys.source
> > CREATE TABLE "sys"."source" (
> >       "x" INTEGER,
> >       "y" INTEGER,
> >       "v"  VARCHAR(32)
> > );
> > sql>\d sys.facts
> > CREATE ARRAY "sys"."facts" (
> >       "x" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:1],
> >       "y" INTEGER       DIMENSION [0:1:*],
> >       "v"  VARCHAR(32)
> > );
> > """
> >
> > My goal at the moment is to use the unbounded array as it would fit very =
well the domain of my application: several coordinates-like columns and a cou=
ple of attributes, but the ranges of the coordinates are not known beforehand.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am facing some problems when I try to insert values into=
 the unbounded array:
> > """
> >   sql>insert into sys.facts values (0,0,'42');
> >   0 affected rows (0.938ms)
> > """
> >
> > On the other hand, the same insert operation works just fine with the bou=
nded array:
> > """
> >   sql>insert into sys.facts_bounded values (0,0,'42');
> >   1 affected row (20.594ms)
> >   sql>select * from sys.facts_bounded;
> >   +------+------+------+
> >   |  x   |  y   | v    |
> >   +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> >   |    0 |    0 | 42   |
> >   |    0 |    1 | null |
> >   ... (5 lines omitted for brevity)
> >   |    1 |    3 | null |
> >   +------+------+------+
> >   8 tuples (0.612ms)
> > """
> >
> > I would like to know if this is the supposed way one can insert values in=
to unbounded arrays or I am doing something wrong.
> >
> > I compiled the source from the branch "sciql" from the mercurial reposito=
ry 2 days ago, as my understanding was that the built versions do not support=
 SciQL. Is there any other way I can get a MonetDB with SciQL support?
> >
> > If it helps anything, the beginning of the welcome message of the mserver=
5 is as follows:
> > """
> >   # MonetDB 5 server v11.16.0
> >   # This is an unreleased version
> >   # Serving database 'monetdb5', using 4 threads
> >   # Compiled for x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamical=
ly linked
> > """
> >
> > Any help or suggestion is appreciated!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >     Gabor
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>=20
> _______________________________________________
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From ajdamico@gmail.com Fri May  3 18:27:23 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject:
 Feb2013-SP2 mserver loading time much longer than Feb2013 on Windows x86_64
Date: Fri, 03 May 2013 12:27:00 -0400
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Hi, after upgrading to MonetDB Feb2013-SP2, I've noticed a huge increase in
the loading time for the server to get the ">" shown in the last line below
(indicating it's loaded and ready for mclient connections).  It now takes
between three and ten minutes.  Has anything changed in the Windows version
of the server between Feb2013 and Feb2013-SP2 that might cause this?  Once
loaded, the queries are still lightning-fast, but I'm debating whether I
ought to re-create all of my databases from scratch using Feb2013-SP2, if
there's any reason doing that might help?

Any clues?  :)  Thanks!!!


# MonetDB 5 server v11.15.7 "Feb2013-SP2"
# Serving database 'medicare_sample', using 4 threads
# Compiled for x86_64-pc-winnt/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically linked
# Found 20.000 GiB available main-memory.
# Copyright (c) 1993-July 2008 CWI.
# Copyright (c) August 2008-2013 MonetDB B.V., all rights reserved
# Visit http://www.monetdb.org/ for further information
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From diethard.steiner@gmail.com Thu May  9 13:13:42 2013
From: Diethard Steiner <diethard.steiner@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 12:13:40 +0100
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Hi,

I am wondering why TINYINT values are displayed with different values in
3rd party SQL clients like Squirrel (please see attached screenshot): So 1
is shown as 49 in example. I used following JDBC driver version:
monetdb-jdbc-2.8.jar
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Diethard



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From Kaniska_Mandal@DELL.com Thu May  9 19:00:13 2013
From: Kaniska_Mandal@DELL.com
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Question on installing extensions
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 12:00:06 -0500
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Hi All,

How to install extensions for Streams, XML and Json support ?

Many thanks,
Kaniska



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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Fri May 10 11:14:00 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:13:48 +0200
Message-ID: <497dfdcc-07d7-4f25-953f-f67bb299e594@email.android.com>
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Hi Diethard,

too me, this looks as if the server (correctly) serializes the TINYINT (Monet=
DB internal type bte) into a string to ship it via MAPI, but then the client =
(JDBC driver or Squirrel??) (incorrectly) does not parse the receives string =
as TINYINY (single-byte integer), but rather simply interprets the first char=
acter of the received string as single-byte integer, thus '1' becomes 49, i.e=
., the ASCII code of '1'.

Could you please file a bug report to keep us reminded that we need to invest=
igate and (if it's indeed the JDBC driver) fix it.

Thanks,
Stefan


Diethard Steiner <diethard.steiner(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am wondering why TINYINT values are displayed with different values
>in
>3rd party SQL clients like Squirrel (please see attached screenshot):
>So 1
>is shown as 49 in example. I used following JDBC driver version:
>monetdb-jdbc-2.8.jar
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Diethard
>
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From fabian@monetdb.org Fri May 10 11:34:17 2013
From: Fabian Groffen <fabian@monetdb.org>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 11:34:12 +0200
Message-ID: <20130510093412.GW14413@monetdb.org>
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On 10-05-2013 11:13:48 +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
> Hi Diethard,
> 
> too me, this looks as if the server (correctly) serializes the TINYINT
> (MonetDB internal type bte) into a string to ship it via MAPI, but then the
> client (JDBC driver or Squirrel??) (incorrectly) does not parse the receives
> string as TINYINY (single-byte integer), but rather simply interprets the
> first character of the received string as single-byte integer, thus '1'
> becomes 49, i.e., the ASCII code of '1'.
> 
> Could you please file a bug report to keep us reminded that we need to
> investigate and (if it's indeed the JDBC driver) fix it.

I recall having seen this before, then we couldn't find anything and
assumed a SquirrelSQL bug.  I think it's easy to check the driver
(JDBC) does the right thing by using JdbcClient and verifying that it
prints a number.  Maybe the mapping is incorrect at some place, but I
can hardly imagine, unless our sources do type mapping at Char or
something.

If someone wants to look, check MonetConnection, there should be a giant
switch where the monet types (see MonetDriver, getJavaType or something)
are mapped onto JDBC types according to the specs.  It should return a
java.sql.TINYINT for this case.  If not, we need to figure out if
there's a clash somehow, or just a prehistoric bug.

Thanks,
Fabian

-- 
Fabian Groffen                              fabian(a)monetdb.org
column-store pioneer               http://www.monetdb.org/Home

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From diethard.steiner@gmail.com Fri May 10 11:41:28 2013
From: Diethard Steiner <diethard.steiner@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:41:27 +0100
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Thanks a lot Stefan and Fabian for your reply! I checked this in two
clients so far: Squirrel and DBeaver, and in both I can see exactly the
same behaviour. Later on I will try to test in a 3rd one.
Best regards,
Diethard


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Fabian Groffen <fabian(a)monetdb.org> wrote:

> On 10-05-2013 11:13:48 +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
> > Hi Diethard,
> >
> > too me, this looks as if the server (correctly) serializes the TINYINT
> > (MonetDB internal type bte) into a string to ship it via MAPI, but then
> the
> > client (JDBC driver or Squirrel??) (incorrectly) does not parse the
> receives
> > string as TINYINY (single-byte integer), but rather simply interprets the
> > first character of the received string as single-byte integer, thus '1'
> > becomes 49, i.e., the ASCII code of '1'.
> >
> > Could you please file a bug report to keep us reminded that we need to
> > investigate and (if it's indeed the JDBC driver) fix it.
>
> I recall having seen this before, then we couldn't find anything and
> assumed a SquirrelSQL bug.  I think it's easy to check the driver
> (JDBC) does the right thing by using JdbcClient and verifying that it
> prints a number.  Maybe the mapping is incorrect at some place, but I
> can hardly imagine, unless our sources do type mapping at Char or
> something.
>
> If someone wants to look, check MonetConnection, there should be a giant
> switch where the monet types (see MonetDriver, getJavaType or something)
> are mapped onto JDBC types according to the specs.  It should return a
> java.sql.TINYINT for this case.  If not, we need to figure out if
> there's a clash somehow, or just a prehistoric bug.
>
> Thanks,
> Fabian
>
> --
> Fabian Groffen                              fabian(a)monetdb.org
> column-store pioneer               http://www.monetdb.org/Home
>
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
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From junliu44@gmail.com Fri May 10 11:54:00 2013
From: Jun Liu <junliu44@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Database sampling doesn't work in new release.
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 17:53:58 +0800
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MonetDB version: Feb2013-SP2

Using mclient to execute a SQL like:
SELECT * FROM TEST SAMPLE 10;

It will return "Connection terminated" and quit.



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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Fri May 10 15:38:55 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:38:49 +0200
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MonetDB's JdbcClient seems to handle tinyint correctly:


$ java -jar jdbcclient.jar
Welcome to the MonetDB interactive JDBC terminal!
Database: MonetDB v11.15.7, 'demo'
Driver: MonetDB Native Driver v2.8 (Liberica 20130426 based on MCL v1.9)
Type \q to quit, \h for a list of available commands
auto commit mode: on
monetdb-> create table t (a tinyint);
Operation successful

monetdb-> \d t
CREATE TABLE "sys"."t" (
	"a" tinyint
);
monetdb-> insert into t values (1);
1 affected row

monetdb-> select * from t;
+--------+
| a      |
+========+
|      1 |
+--------+
1 row

monetdb-> 


Stefan

----- Original Message -----
> Thanks a lot Stefan and Fabian for your reply! I checked this in two
> clients so far: Squirrel and DBeaver, and in both I can see exactly
> the
> same behaviour. Later on I will try to test in a 3rd one.
> Best regards,
> Diethard
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Fabian Groffen <fabian(a)monetdb.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 10-05-2013 11:13:48 +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
> > > Hi Diethard,
> > >
> > > too me, this looks as if the server (correctly) serializes the
> > > TINYINT
> > > (MonetDB internal type bte) into a string to ship it via MAPI,
> > > but then
> > the
> > > client (JDBC driver or Squirrel??) (incorrectly) does not parse
> > > the
> > receives
> > > string as TINYINY (single-byte integer), but rather simply
> > > interprets the
> > > first character of the received string as single-byte integer,
> > > thus '1'
> > > becomes 49, i.e., the ASCII code of '1'.
> > >
> > > Could you please file a bug report to keep us reminded that we
> > > need to
> > > investigate and (if it's indeed the JDBC driver) fix it.
> >
> > I recall having seen this before, then we couldn't find anything
> > and
> > assumed a SquirrelSQL bug.  I think it's easy to check the driver
> > (JDBC) does the right thing by using JdbcClient and verifying that
> > it
> > prints a number.  Maybe the mapping is incorrect at some place, but
> > I
> > can hardly imagine, unless our sources do type mapping at Char or
> > something.
> >
> > If someone wants to look, check MonetConnection, there should be a
> > giant
> > switch where the monet types (see MonetDriver, getJavaType or
> > something)
> > are mapped onto JDBC types according to the specs.  It should
> > return a
> > java.sql.TINYINT for this case.  If not, we need to figure out if
> > there's a clash somehow, or just a prehistoric bug.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fabian
> >
> > --
> > Fabian Groffen                              fabian(a)monetdb.org
> > column-store pioneer               http://www.monetdb.org/Home
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> >
> >
> 
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From: Diethard Steiner <diethard.steiner@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: TINYINT display problems in 3rd party query clients
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:25:10 +0100
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Thanks a lot Stefan for checking this. I did try to run a query from
insider Pentaho Data Integration (Kettle) and this is returning the correct
figures. I don't have any other 3rd party query clients installed other
than Squirrel and DBeaver which both show the same problem. Is there a
parameter that I could pass on with the connection string for the encoding?


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold(a)cwi.nl>wr=
ote:

> MonetDB's JdbcClient seems to handle tinyint correctly:
>
>
> $ java -jar jdbcclient.jar
> Welcome to the MonetDB interactive JDBC terminal!
> Database: MonetDB v11.15.7, 'demo'
> Driver: MonetDB Native Driver v2.8 (Liberica 20130426 based on MCL v1.9)
> Type \q to quit, \h for a list of available commands
> auto commit mode: on
> monetdb-> create table t (a tinyint);
> Operation successful
>
> monetdb-> \d t
> CREATE TABLE "sys"."t" (
>         "a" tinyint
> );
> monetdb-> insert into t values (1);
> 1 affected row
>
> monetdb-> select * from t;
> +--------+
> | a      |
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> |      1 |
> +--------+
> 1 row
>
> monetdb->
>
>
> Stefan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Thanks a lot Stefan and Fabian for your reply! I checked this in two
> > clients so far: Squirrel and DBeaver, and in both I can see exactly
> > the
> > same behaviour. Later on I will try to test in a 3rd one.
> > Best regards,
> > Diethard
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Fabian Groffen <fabian(a)monetdb.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 10-05-2013 11:13:48 +0200, Stefan Manegold wrote:
> > > > Hi Diethard,
> > > >
> > > > too me, this looks as if the server (correctly) serializes the
> > > > TINYINT
> > > > (MonetDB internal type bte) into a string to ship it via MAPI,
> > > > but then
> > > the
> > > > client (JDBC driver or Squirrel??) (incorrectly) does not parse
> > > > the
> > > receives
> > > > string as TINYINY (single-byte integer), but rather simply
> > > > interprets the
> > > > first character of the received string as single-byte integer,
> > > > thus '1'
> > > > becomes 49, i.e., the ASCII code of '1'.
> > > >
> > > > Could you please file a bug report to keep us reminded that we
> > > > need to
> > > > investigate and (if it's indeed the JDBC driver) fix it.
> > >
> > > I recall having seen this before, then we couldn't find anything
> > > and
> > > assumed a SquirrelSQL bug.  I think it's easy to check the driver
> > > (JDBC) does the right thing by using JdbcClient and verifying that
> > > it
> > > prints a number.  Maybe the mapping is incorrect at some place, but
> > > I
> > > can hardly imagine, unless our sources do type mapping at Char or
> > > something.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to look, check MonetConnection, there should be a
> > > giant
> > > switch where the monet types (see MonetDriver, getJavaType or
> > > something)
> > > are mapped onto JDBC types according to the specs.  It should
> > > return a
> > > java.sql.TINYINT for this case.  If not, we need to figure out if
> > > there's a clash somehow, or just a prehistoric bug.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Fabian
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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From lsidir@gmail.com Fri May 10 17:08:41 2013
From: Lefteris <lsidir@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Database sampling doesn't work in new release.
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 17:08:39 +0200
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Hi Jun,

thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will check it. For the
time being, is it possible for you to file a bug report here
http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?

Thank you,

lefteris


On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Jun Liu <junliu44(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> MonetDB version: Feb2013-SP2
>
> Using mclient to execute a SQL like:
> SELECT * FROM TEST SAMPLE 10;
>
> It will return "Connection terminated" and quit.
>
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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Sun May 12 20:24:31 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Database sampling doesn't work in new release.
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:24:29 +0200
Message-ID: <20130512182429.GD8393@cwi.nl>
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I can confirm the problem:

sql>SELECT * FROM TABLES SAMPLE 10;
GDK reported error.
BATfetchjoin(tmp_5623,tmp_5613) does not hit always (|bn|=3D0 !=3D 10=3D|l|) =
=3D> can't use fetchjoin.
sql>

Could you please file a bug report as Lefteris suggested?

Thanks!
Stefan

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 05:08:39PM +0200, Lefteris wrote:
> Hi Jun,
>=20
> thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will check it. For the
> time being, is it possible for you to file a bug report here
> http://bugs.monetdb.org/ ?
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> lefteris
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Jun Liu <junliu44(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> > MonetDB version: Feb2013-SP2
> >
> > Using mclient to execute a SQL like:
> > SELECT * FROM TEST SAMPLE 10;
> >
> > It will return "Connection terminated" and quit.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> >
> >

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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Sun May 12 20:36:34 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: * Question on installing extensions
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:36:32 +0200
Message-ID: <20130512183632.GE8393@cwi.nl>
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On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 12:00:06PM -0500, Kaniska_Mandal(a)DELL.com wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> How to install extensions for Streams, XML and Json support ?

Json (JAQL) is enabled by default in the binary releases.
Start mclient with "-l jaql" to use it.
See also http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Extensions/JAQL

SQL/XML support as per
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/SQLreference/XML
is also enabled by default. See there for details.

For streaming extensions as per
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Extensions/Streams you need to compile
MonetDB from sources, configured with "--enable-datacell".  Please note,
that the streaming extensions are still highly experimental

Best,
Stefan

> Many thanks,
> Kaniska

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From ajdamico@gmail.com Mon May 13 14:30:26 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: support for non-median quantile functions?
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 08:30:04 -0400
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Hi, would it be possible to expand the median() function to be expanded
work on any quantile?  Martin's original request did say quantile, not just
median :D  http://osdir.com/ml/db.monetdb.bugs/2008-06/msg00206.html

Given the MonetDB.R connection, I think a lot more statisticians are going
to be using MonetDB -- and they'll find a lot of value in being able to
calculate statistics like the 25th and 75th, percentiles quickly.

I can submit a bugs.monetdb.org report if that's appropriate?

Thanks for considering this!!



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From a.bouslah@yahoo.fr Mon May 13 23:53:19 2013
From: Bouslah Ahmed <a.bouslah@yahoo.fr>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: GROUP BY
Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 22:53:15 +0100
Message-ID: <1368481995.7137.YahooMailNeo@web172102.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>
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Hello,

I am a student at a university in France.

I work on MonetDB, Windows platform.

I have some questions:

I want to optimize the "Group by" function of the SQL module in order to crea=
te a new function combining the "Group by" function and another function. For=
 this I want to know:

1 - How to locate the class containing the code of the "Group by" function
2 - How to edit the code in question to change it
3 - Which editor should be used to compile the project.
4 - I tried to use "Visual Studio 2012" to open the project "MonetDB" but I h=
ave not managed to do.

Regards
Ahmed Bouslah.



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From mk@monetdb.com Tue May 14 00:06:21 2013
From: Martin Kersten <mk@monetdb.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: GROUP BY
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 00:06:20 +0200
Message-ID: <519163DC.8080208@monetdb.com>
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Hello

On 5/13/13 11:53 PM, Bouslah Ahmed wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am a student at a university in France.
>
> I work on MonetDB, Windows platform.
A pity,because all serious development is done on Linux platforms.
>
> I have some questions:
>
> I want to optimize the "Group by" function of the SQL module in order 
> to create a new function combining the "Group by" function and another 
> function. For this I want to know:
>
> 1 - How to locate the class containing the code of the "Group by" function
MonetDB is not an object-oriented program, so there is no such thing a 
specific GroupBy class
> 2 - How to edit the code in question to change it
First look at the code produced by:
explain select * from tables group by name,query;
and you will understand that there is no such thing as a single operator
to do this.
> 3 - Which editor should be used to compile the project.
vi ;)
> 4 - I tried to use "Visual Studio 2012" to open the project "MonetDB" 
> but I have not managed to do.
see above

regards, Martin
>
> Regards
> Ahmed Bouslah.
>
>
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> users-list(a)monetdb.org
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From sjoerd@acm.org Tue May 14 09:29:51 2013
From: Sjoerd Mullender <sjoerd@acm.org>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: GROUP BY
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:29:49 +0200
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On 2013-05-14 00:06, Martin Kersten wrote:
> Hello
> 
> On 5/13/13 11:53 PM, Bouslah Ahmed wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am a student at a university in France.
>> 
>> I work on MonetDB, Windows platform.
> A pity,because all serious development is done on Linux platforms.
>> 
>> I have some questions:
>> 
>> I want to optimize the "Group by" function of the SQL module in
>> order to create a new function combining the "Group by" function
>> and another function. For this I want to know:
>> 
>> 1 - How to locate the class containing the code of the "Group by"
>> function
> MonetDB is not an object-oriented program, so there is no such
> thing a specific GroupBy class
>> 2 - How to edit the code in question to change it
> First look at the code produced by: explain select * from tables
> group by name,query; and you will understand that there is no such
> thing as a single operator to do this.
>> 3 - Which editor should be used to compile the project.
> vi ;)

A more helpful reply: look at buildtools/doc/windowsbuild.rst which is
part of the source tree.
Building on Windows is not for the faint of heart.  You need to do a
lot of preparatory work in order to get a usable environment.

>> 4 - I tried to use "Visual Studio 2012" to open the project
>> "MonetDB" but I have not managed to do.
> see above
> 
> regards, Martin
>> 
>> Regards Ahmed Bouslah.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ users-list
>> mailing list users-list(a)monetdb.org 
>> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________ users-list mailing
> list users-list(a)monetdb.org 
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> 


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From Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl Tue May 14 09:31:20 2013
From: Stefan Manegold <Stefan.Manegold@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Help for MonetDB source code (SQL Module)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:31:18 +0200
Message-ID: <20130514073118.GA6946@cwi.nl>
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Dear Khaled,

for questions about MonetDB, I kindly ask you to use the respective mailing
list(s); I Cc my answer to the users list.
See also http://www.monetdb.org/Developers/Mailinglists

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:41:45PM +0200, Khaled Dehdouh wrote:
> Dear sir,
>=20
> I am a student at university of LYON. Concerning MonetDB, I need your help,
> please on some points.
>=20
>=20
>    - I want to do some optimizations in "GROUP BY" function of SQL module.
>    For this end, can you show me where is exactly the function code
>    responsible to perform the "Group By" operation on MonetDB source
> codein order to modif
>    y it.

I'm wondering how you know that "optimizations" are necessary/possible
without knowing the actual code, but I guess you know.

You find the respective code in gdk/gdk_group.c

>    - I would like to know also how to recompile the code after modification
>    of the "GROUP BY" function.

See
http://www.monetdb.org/Developers/SourceCompile
http://dev.monetdb.org/hg/MonetDB/file/tip/HowToStart.rst
http://dev.monetdb.org/hg/MonetDB/file/1272d67f24be/buildtools/doc/windowsbui=
ld.rst

>    - How creating a new SQL command that performs function with parameters =
and
>    combines two existing functions in MONETDB.

See
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/SQLreference/Modules
or your favorite SQL:2003 documentation. MonetDB is SQL standard compliant.

Best,
Stefan

> Thanks in advance.
>=20
> Best regards,
> Khaled DEHDOUH.

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From Niels.Nes@cwi.nl Wed May 15 14:52:57 2013
From: Niels Nes <Niels.Nes@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: support for non-median quantile functions?
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 14:52:55 +0200
Message-ID: <20130515125255.GC28663@niels.cwi.nl>
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On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:30:04AM -0400, Anthony Damico wrote:
> Hi, would it be possible to expand the median() function to be expanded
> work on any quantile?  Martin's original request did say quantile, not
> just median :D  http://osdir.com/ml/db.monetdb.bugs/2008-06/
> msg00206.html
> 
> Given the MonetDB.R connection, I think a lot more statisticians are
> going to be using MonetDB -- and they'll find a lot of value in being
> able to calculate statistics like the 25th and 75th, percentiles
> quickly.
> 
> I can submit a bugs.monetdb.org report if that's appropriate?
Indeed lets put this on the bug tracker as a feature request.

Niels
> 
> Thanks for considering this!!

> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list


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From ajdamico@gmail.com Wed May 15 15:09:33 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: support for non-median quantile functions?
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:09:10 -0400
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Done.  Thank you!  http://bugs.monetdb.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3283


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 08:30:04AM -0400, Anthony Damico wrote:
> > Hi, would it be possible to expand the median() function to be expanded
> > work on any quantile?  Martin's original request did say quantile, not
> > just median :D  http://osdir.com/ml/db.monetdb.bugs/2008-06/
> > msg00206.html
> >
> > Given the MonetDB.R connection, I think a lot more statisticians are
> > going to be using MonetDB -- and they'll find a lot of value in being
> > able to calculate statistics like the 25th and 75th, percentiles
> > quickly.
> >
> > I can submit a bugs.monetdb.org report if that's appropriate?
> Indeed lets put this on the bug tracker as a feature request.
>
> Niels
> >
> > Thanks for considering this!!
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>
>
> --
> Niels Nes, Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI)
> Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
> url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels   e-mail: Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl
>
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From masoodmortazavi@gmail.com Sat May 18 02:29:39 2013
From: Masood Mortazavi <masoodmortazavi@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 17:29:36 -0700
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Hi,

The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL interpreter mode.

How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a way to use
the "trace" command in this mode?

Best regards,
Masood



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From Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl Sat May 18 02:35:28 2013
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 02:35:15 +0200
Message-ID: <5196CCC3.2040700@cwi.nl>
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Hi

The best way to trace is to use the 'stethoscope' 
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/MonetDB/Profiler/Stethoscope

For MAL programs one can use something like:
	profiler.activate("ISTestmrw");
	profiler.setAll();
	profiler.openStream();
	profiler.start();
...MAL program to follow....
	profiler.stop();


regards, Martin

On 5/18/13 2:29 AM, Masood Mortazavi wrote:
> Hi,
> The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL interpreter mode.
> How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a way to use
> the "trace" command in this mode?
> Best regards,
> Masood
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>

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From stephen_p_morgan@sbcglobal.net Mon May 20 19:11:48 2013
From: "Stephen P. Morgan" <stephen_p_morgan@sbcglobal.net>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:11:43 -0700
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Hi. I'm working with Masood.  When profiling an explained (MAL) version of TP=
CH=20
Query 1 with stethoscope, we noticed something strange, and would appreciate =

your comments.  First, the MAL program seems to take longer by about 75% (10 =
to=20
15 seconds on a given server) to produce output when run at TPCH scale factor=
=20
100.  (We have similar results at other scale factors.)  Second, the program =

doesn't produce output until about 10-15 seconds after completing=20
sql.exportResult() when run as MAL, but does so immediately after completing =

sql.exportResult() when run as SQL.  There doesn't seem to be anything going =
on=20
in that final 10-15 second interval in the MAL program, at least according to=
=20
stethoscope.  What might be happening during that time?

Perhaps naively, we imagined that the MAL and SQL timings would be about the =

same.

Thanks,

Steve




________________________________
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>
To: users-list(a)monetdb.org
Sent: Fri, May 17, 2013 5:35:50 PM
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter

Hi

The best way to trace is to use the 'stethoscope'=20
http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/MonetDB/Profiler/Stethoscope

For MAL programs one can use something like:
    profiler.activate("ISTestmrw");
    profiler.setAll();
    profiler.openStream();
    profiler.start();
...MAL program to follow....
    profiler.stop();


regards, Martin

On 5/18/13 2:29 AM, Masood Mortazavi wrote:
> Hi,
> The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL interpreter mode.
> How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a way to use
> the "trace" command in this mode?
> Best regards,
> Masood
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>
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From Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl Mon May 20 21:12:01 2013
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 21:11:53 +0200
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Hi.
Thank you for the comments. Overall there is no immediate answer to your
question, because the Mserver, OS and hardware characteristics are
unkown.
On a small (ATOM) system there may be swapping between client/server
cost, or network-re-establishment cost in a distributed client/server
(cloud) setup.

Also some Linux versions show unstable behavior under some page
mapping schemes.

On 5/20/13 7:11 PM, Stephen P. Morgan wrote:
> Hi. I'm working with Masood.  When profiling an explained (MAL) version
> of TPCH Query 1 with stethoscope, we noticed something strange, and
> would appreciate your comments.  First, the MAL program seems to take
> longer by about 75% (10 to 15 seconds on a given server) to produce
> output when run at TPCH scale factor 100.  (We have similar results at
> other scale factors.)  Second, the program doesn't produce output until
> about 10-15 seconds after completing sql.exportResult() when run as MAL,
looks like a reload/re-establishment of processes.

> but does so immediately after completing sql.exportResult() when run as
> SQL.  There doesn't seem to be anything going on in that final 10-15
> second interval in the MAL program, at least according to stethoscope.
The stethoscope does not show OS behavior, but this can be triggered
using the proper parameters. See stethoscope --help, which gives you
access to the basis OS performance parameters.
> What might be happening during that time?
>
> Perhaps naively, we imagined that the MAL and SQL timings would be about
> the same.
They use the same protocol for interaction.

NOTE 1; be aware of the difference between hot and cold runs.
NOTE 2; be aware that even starting a browser at the same time on the
test machine can lead to resource (memory/cpu) fights and therefore
possible performance differences.

regards, Martin
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>
> *To:* users-list(a)monetdb.org
> *Sent:* Fri, May 17, 2013 5:35:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
>
> Hi
>
> The best way to trace is to use the 'stethoscope'
> http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/MonetDB/Profiler/Stethoscope
>
> For MAL programs one can use something like:
>      profiler.activate("ISTestmrw");
>      profiler.setAll();
>      profiler.openStream();
>      profiler.start();
> ...MAL program to follow....
>      profiler.stop();
>
>
> regards, Martin
>
> On 5/18/13 2:29 AM, Masood Mortazavi wrote:
>  > Hi,
>  > The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL
> interpreter mode.
>  > How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a way to use
>  > the "trace" command in this mode?
>  > Best regards,
>  > Masood
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > users-list mailing list
>  > users-list(a)monetdb.org <mailto:users-list(a)monetdb.org>
>  > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>  >
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From stephen_p_morgan@sbcglobal.net Mon May 20 23:31:12 2013
From: "Stephen P. Morgan" <stephen_p_morgan@sbcglobal.net>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:31:07 -0700
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The environment comprises a dual Xeon E5-2680 CPU server clocked at 2.7 GHz r=
unning Ubuntu (12.10, I believe) x86_64 SMP Linux (3.5.0-17-generic kernel).=
=C2=A0 /proc/cpuinfo reports that there are 32 CPUs, so I presume there are 1=
6 cores in each CPU (or perhaps eight cores each with hyperthreading?).=C2=A0=
 The machine has 198,062,144 KBytes of RAM according to /proc/meminfo (a stra=
nge number, admittedly).=C2=A0 We're running a very slightly modified Feb2013=
-SP1 MonetDB system; however, none of the modifications relate to performance=
.=C2=A0 (They relate to generating enough type information that we can automa=
tically run explain-generated MAL.)

The observation is that (consistently), when running TPCH Query 1 in MAL from=
 mclient while tracing output via stethoscope, we see that the last event not=
ed by stethoscope, i.e., sql.exportResult() completes about 10-15 seconds bef=
ore mclient displays its results.=C2=A0 And sql.exportResult() is the final M=
AL instruction in the program.=C2=A0 (Well, that's not quite true.=C2=A0 The =
program is run by calling the MAL function generated by explaining a SQL quer=
y, so I suppose there is a return from the function call.=C2=A0 And we call s=
ql.init() before calling the function.)

We are ssh'ed into the system, and we are running in an LXC container, in cas=
e either of those might make a difference.=C2=A0 But for the case in which we=
 run SQL, we are also ssh'ed into an LXC container.=C2=A0 And the results are=
 consistently repeatable.

I just tried setting all sorts of flags in stethoscope, but once it shows tha=
t sql.exportResult() has completed, I get no more output from it.=C2=A0 The n=
ext thing that happens is that mclient returns its results (some 10-15 second=
s later).

Is mclient performing some sort of complex computation on the results prior t=
o displaying them?=C2=A0 Or is there some complex protocol between mserver an=
d mclient in the case of MAL queries?=C2=A0 (It's unlikely to be paging, due =
to the large amount of RAM.)=C2=A0 There should be no other activity going on=
 in the system.

In the case of SQL queries, we get the results approximately simultaneously w=
ith stethoscope noting that sql.exportResult() has finished.

I wonder whether you can think of something that we might be doing wrong or w=
hether you can give us some idea what is happening in those 10-15 seconds?

Thank you,

Steve

--- On Mon, 5/20/13, Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
To: users-list(a)monetdb.org
Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 12:11 PM

Hi.
Thank you for the comments. Overall there is no immediate answer to your
question, because the Mserver, OS and hardware characteristics are
unkown.
On a small (ATOM) system there may be swapping between client/server
cost, or network-re-establishment cost in a distributed client/server
(cloud) setup.

Also some Linux versions show unstable behavior under some page
mapping schemes.

On 5/20/13 7:11 PM, Stephen P. Morgan wrote:
> Hi. I'm working with Masood.=C2=A0 When profiling an explained (MAL) version
> of TPCH Query 1 with stethoscope, we noticed something strange, and
> would appreciate your comments.=C2=A0 First, the MAL program seems to take
> longer by about 75% (10 to 15 seconds on a given server) to produce
> output when run at TPCH scale factor 100.=C2=A0 (We have similar results at
> other scale factors.)=C2=A0 Second, the program doesn't produce output until
> about 10-15 seconds after completing sql.exportResult() when run as MAL,
looks like a reload/re-establishment of processes.

> but does so immediately after completing sql.exportResult() when run as
> SQL.=C2=A0 There doesn't seem to be anything going on in that final 10-15
> second interval in the MAL program, at least according to stethoscope.
The stethoscope does not show OS behavior, but this can be triggered
using the proper parameters. See stethoscope --help, which gives you
access to the basis OS performance parameters.
> What might be happening during that time?
>
> Perhaps naively, we imagined that the MAL and SQL timings would be about
> the same.
They use the same protocol for interaction.

NOTE 1; be aware of the difference between hot and cold runs.
NOTE 2; be aware that even starting a browser at the same time on the
test machine can lead to resource (memory/cpu) fights and therefore
possible performance differences.

regards, Martin
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>
> *To:* users-list(a)monetdb.org
> *Sent:* Fri, May 17, 2013 5:35:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
>
> Hi
>
> The best way to trace is to use the 'stethoscope'
> http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/MonetDB/Profiler/Stethoscope
>
> For MAL programs one can use something like:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 profiler.activate("ISTestmrw");
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 profiler.setAll();
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 profiler.openStream();
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 profiler.start();
> ...MAL program to follow....
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 profiler.stop();
>
>
> regards, Martin
>
> On 5/18/13 2:29 AM, Masood Mortazavi wrote:
>=C2=A0 > Hi,
>=C2=A0 > The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL
> interpreter mode.
>=C2=A0 > How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a way t=
o use
>=C2=A0 > the "trace" command in this mode?
>=C2=A0 > Best regards,
>=C2=A0 > Masood
>=C2=A0 >
>=C2=A0 >
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From Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl Mon May 20 23:52:28 2013
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:52:19 +0200
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Dear Steve

Thanks for the additional information, which shows it does not
relate to my earlier suspicions.
I have never ran MAL TPCH Q1 versions (copied pasted from the SQL)
separately.

The protocol adhered to by all front-ends is the same and encapsulated
in the mapi library. As such, the difference in output shipping is
unexpected. Perhaps running mclient using valgrind --tool=3Dcallgrind
using both variations (SQL and MAL) might show a difference in
code execution.




On 5/20/13 11:31 PM, Stephen P. Morgan wrote:
> The environment comprises a dual Xeon E5-2680 CPU server clocked at 2.7
> GHz running Ubuntu (12.10, I believe) x86_64 SMP Linux (3.5.0-17-generic
> kernel).  /proc/cpuinfo reports that there are 32 CPUs, so I presume
> there are 16 cores in each CPU (or perhaps eight cores each with
> hyperthreading?).  The machine has 198,062,144 KBytes of RAM according
> to /proc/meminfo (a strange number, admittedly).  We're running a very
> slightly modified Feb2013-SP1 MonetDB system; however, none of the
> modifications relate to performance.  (They relate to generating enough
> type information that we can automatically run explain-generated MAL.)
>
> The observation is that (consistently), when running TPCH Query 1 in MAL
> from mclient while tracing output via stethoscope, we see that the last
> event noted by stethoscope, i.e., sql.exportResult() completes about
> 10-15 seconds before mclient displays its results.  And
> sql.exportResult() is the final MAL instruction in the program.  (Well,
> that's not quite true.  The program is run by calling the MAL function
> generated by explaining a SQL query, so I suppose there is a return from
> the function call.  And we call sql.init() before calling the function.)
>
> We are ssh'ed into the system, and we are running in an LXC container,
> in case either of those might make a difference.  But for the case in
> which we run SQL, we are also ssh'ed into an LXC container.  And the
> results are consistently repeatable.
>
> I just tried setting all sorts of flags in stethoscope, but once it
> shows that sql.exportResult() has completed, I get no more output from
> it.  The next thing that happens is that mclient returns its results
> (some 10-15 seconds later).
>
> Is mclient performing some sort of complex computation on the results
> prior to displaying them?  Or is there some complex protocol between
> mserver and mclient in the case of MAL queries?  (It's unlikely to be
> paging, due to the large amount of RAM.)  There should be no other
> activity going on in the system.
>
> In the case of SQL queries, we get the results approximately
> simultaneously with stethoscope noting that sql.exportResult() has finished.
>
> I wonder whether you can think of something that we might be doing wrong
> or whether you can give us some idea what is happening in those 10-15
> seconds?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Steve
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/20/13, Martin Kersten /<Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>
>     Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
>     To: users-list(a)monetdb.org
>     Date: Monday, May 20, 2013, 12:11 PM
>
>     Hi.
>     Thank you for the comments. Overall there is no immediate answer to your
>     question, because the Mserver, OS and hardware characteristics are
>     unkown.
>     On a small (ATOM) system there may be swapping between client/server
>     cost, or network-re-establishment cost in a distributed client/server
>     (cloud) setup.
>
>     Also some Linux versions show unstable behavior under some page
>     mapping schemes.
>
>     On 5/20/13 7:11 PM, Stephen P. Morgan wrote:
>      > Hi. I'm working with Masood.  When profiling an explained (MAL)
>     version
>      > of TPCH Query 1 with stethoscope, we noticed something strange, and
>      > would appreciate your comments.  First, the MAL program seems to take
>      > longer by about 75% (10 to 15 seconds on a given server) to produce
>      > output when run at TPCH scale factor 100.  (We have similar
>     results at
>      > other scale factors.)  Second, the program doesn't produce output
>     until
>      > about 10-15 seconds after completing sql.exportResult() when run
>     as MAL,
>     looks like a reload/re-establishment of processes.
>
>      > but does so immediately after completing sql.exportResult() when
>     run as
>      > SQL.  There doesn't seem to be anything going on in that final 10-15
>      > second interval in the MAL program, at least according to
>     stethoscope.
>     The stethoscope does not show OS behavior, but this can be triggered
>     using the proper parameters. See stethoscope --help, which gives you
>     access to the basis OS performance parameters.
>      > What might be happening during that time?
>      >
>      > Perhaps naively, we imagined that the MAL and SQL timings would
>     be about
>      > the same.
>     They use the same protocol for interaction.
>
>     NOTE 1; be aware of the difference between hot and cold runs.
>     NOTE 2; be aware that even starting a browser at the same time on the
>     test machine can lead to resource (memory/cpu) fights and therefore
>     possible performance differences.
>
>     regards, Martin
>      >
>      > Thanks,
>      >
>      > Steve
>      >
>      >
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      > *From:* Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl
>     </mc/compose?to=3DMartin.Kersten(a)cwi.nl>>
>      > *To:* users-list(a)monetdb.org </mc/compose?to=3Dusers-list(a)monetd=
b.org>
>      > *Sent:* Fri, May 17, 2013 5:35:50 PM
>      > *Subject:* Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL
>     interpreter
>      >
>      > Hi
>      >
>      > The best way to trace is to use the 'stethoscope'
>      >
>     http://www.monetdb.org/Documentation/Manuals/MonetDB/Profiler/Stethosco=
pe
>      >
>      > For MAL programs one can use something like:
>      >      profiler.activate("ISTestmrw");
>      >      profiler.setAll();
>      >      profiler.openStream();
>      >      profiler.start();
>      > ...MAL program to follow....
>      >      profiler.stop();
>      >
>      >
>      > regards, Martin
>      >
>      > On 5/18/13 2:29 AM, Masood Mortazavi wrote:
>      >  > Hi,
>      >  > The "trace" commands works well when mclient is in the SQL
>      > interpreter mode.
>      >  > How about when mclient is in MAl interpreter mode? Is there a
>     way to use
>      >  > the "trace" command in this mode?
>      >  > Best regards,
>      >  > Masood
>      >  >
>      >  >
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From Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl Mon May 20 23:52:52 2013
From: Martin Kersten <Martin.Kersten@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Using something like "trace" within the MAL interpreter
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 23:52:46 +0200
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Q1 only returns 4 tuples, which still hints at some OS interference.


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From nadiasvertex@gmail.com Thu May 23 15:35:03 2013
From: Christopher Nelson <nadiasvertex@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:35:01 -0400
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Hi,

I noticed in the manual that there are many useful functions for the inet
and url types. For example, I would like to convert an inet column to text
for use in a Python script (since the python-monetdb module does not
support the inet type.)

I tried:

sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER BY
src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select
wlid, text("

sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
unexpected symbol (:)

sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select wlid, inet.text("

I have read through the manual sections on types and functions several
times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified functions on these
types. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

-={C}=-



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From ajdamico@gmail.com Thu May 23 18:12:49 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Possible to reset or flush out RAM usage in Windows without closing
 and re-opening mserver.exe?
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:12:27 -0400
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Hi, I'm running a two-day-long program on Windows x64 with MonetDB.R that
breaks somewhere into the second day due to what I believe is overloaded
RAM?  I was under the impression that this should not really happen with
MonetDB, since it's a database that doesn't load everything into RAM..
Here's what's happening:

A big, complicated series of importations, merges, and recodes all work for
the first two days on about 250,000,000 records of data..  but all the
while my Windows Task Manager will slowly show the physical memory usage
meter ticking up in the "Performance" tab.  mserver.exe does NOT appear to
be using RAM in the "Memory" column of the "Processes" tab, so it looks
like there's a ghost using RAM.

Then, after two days, the script will break (mserver output shown below) -
returning a GDK error on a seemingly-benign line of code, just a simple
recode:

Error in .local(conn, statement, ..., async = async) :
  UPDATE ep10 SET rx_cso_cov = CVRD_D_PLAN_PD_AMT WHERE DRUG_CVRG_STUS_CD
IN ( 'C','S','O' ) failed!
  Server says: !GDKerror:!ERROR: GDKmallocmax: failed for 589484032 bytes


After that, if I close mserver.exe and open it up again, it takes about
twenty minutes to get the ">" mserver prompt.  But it does open up
eventually..  and at that point, if I re-connect to the server with R and
run the exact same line, it works without error.

So it appears I just need to flush out that ghost/mystery RAM usage
somehow?  Does this error make sense?


There is no way this is due to lack of hard disk space - this server's C
drive has 15GB free and the attached drive actually hosting all of this
data has 235GB free.  I don't want to rule it out, but I also doubt this
problem is related to MonetDB.R, since the scenario I described does not
require that I restart my R console, just mserver.exe.


I can work around the problem by manually killing and re-starting
mserver.exe at a few logical breakpoints in my program, but I didn't think
this was supposed to happen in the first place?


Thanks!!!
Anthony



# MonetDB 5 server v11.15.7 "Feb2013-SP2"
# Serving database 'medicare_sample', using 4 threads
# Compiled for x86_64-pc-winnt/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically linked
# Found 20.000 GiB available main-memory.
# Copyright (c) 1993-July 2008 CWI.
# Copyright (c) August 2008-2013 MonetDB B.V., all rights reserved
# Visit http://www.monetdb.org/ for further information
# Listening for connection requests on mapi:monetdb://127.0.0.1:49800/
# MonetDB/JAQL module loaded
# MonetDB/SQL module loaded
># SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
# loading sql script: 09_like.sql
# loading sql script: 10_math.sql
# loading sql script: 11_times.sql
# loading sql script: 12_url.sql
# loading sql script: 13_date.sql
# loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
# loading sql script: 15_history.sql
# loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
# loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
# loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
# loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
# SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
# loading sql script: 09_like.sql
# loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
# loading sql script: 10_math.sql
# loading sql script: 11_times.sql
# loading sql script: 12_url.sql
# loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
# loading sql script: 13_date.sql
# loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
# loading sql script: 15_history.sql
# loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
# loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
# loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
# loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
# loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
# loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
# loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
# loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
# loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
# loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
# loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
# loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
# loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
# loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
# loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
# loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
# loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
# loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
# loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
# loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
# loading sql script: 99_system.sql
# loading sql script: 99_system.sql
#GDKmalloc(589484032) fails, try to free up space [memory in
use=71647756904,vir
tual memory in use=72723595880]
#GDKmalloc(589484032) result [mem=71615637640,vm=72198121608]



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From Niels.Nes@cwi.nl Thu May 23 20:33:36 2013
From: Niels Nes <Niels.Nes@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:33:34 +0200
Message-ID: <20130523183334.GA16530@niels.cwi.nl>
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed in the manual that there are many useful functions for the
> inet and url types. For example, I would like to convert an inet column
> to text for use in a Python script (since the python-monetdb module
> does not support the inet type.)
> 
> I tried:
> 
> sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER
> BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in:
> "select wlid, text("

Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote text.

ie

SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER
BY src, ts LIMIT 5;

Niels
> 
> sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> unexpected symbol (:)
> 
> sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select wlid,
> inet.text("
> 
> I have read through the manual sections on types and functions several
> times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified functions on these
> types. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -={C}=-
> 
> 

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room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098 	sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
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From nadiasvertex@gmail.com Thu May 23 20:36:01 2013
From: Christopher Nelson <nadiasvertex@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 14:35:59 -0400
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sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER
BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful functions for the
> > inet and url types. For example, I would like to convert an inet column
> > to text for use in a Python script (since the python-monetdb module
> > does not support the inet type.)
> >
> > I tried:
> >
> > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER
> > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in:
> > "select wlid, text("
>
> Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote text.
>
> ie
>
> SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL ORDER
> BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>
> Niels
> >
> > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> > unexpected symbol (:)
> >
> > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> > syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select wlid,
> > inet.text("
> >
> > I have read through the manual sections on types and functions several
> > times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified functions on these
> > types. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -={C}=-
> >
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>
>
> --
> Niels Nes, Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI)
> Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
> url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels   e-mail: Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl
>
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
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From Niels.Nes@cwi.nl Thu May 23 20:41:33 2013
From: Niels Nes <Niels.Nes@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:41:31 +0200
Message-ID: <20130523184131.GC16530@niels.cwi.nl>
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'

The text function should be part of the 14_inet.sql file which is
loaded the first time you start (the first) client. Which version 
are you running?

Niels
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> 
>     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful functions for
>     the
>     > inet and url types. For example, I would like to convert an inet
>     column
>     > to text for use in a Python script (since the python-monetdb
>     module
>     > does not support the inet type.)
>     >
>     > I tried:
>     >
>     > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
>     ORDER
>     > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON
>     in:
>     > "select wlid, text("
> 
>     Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote text.
> 
>     ie
> 
>     SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
>     ORDER
>     BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> 
>     Niels
>     >
>     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
>     NULL
>     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>     > unexpected symbol (:)
>     >
>     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
>     NULL
>     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>     > syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select wlid,
>     > inet.text("
>     >
>     > I have read through the manual sections on types and functions
>     several
>     > times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified functions on
>     these
>     > types. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
>     >
>     > Thanks!
>     >
>     > -={C}=-
>     >
>     >
> 
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > users-list mailing list
>     > users-list(a)monetdb.org
>     > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>    
> 
>     --
>     Niels Nes, Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI)
>     Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
>     room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
>     url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels   e-mail: Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl
>    
>     _______________________________________________
>     users-list mailing list
>     users-list(a)monetdb.org
>     http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> 
> 
> 

> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list


-- 
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Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098 	sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
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From nadiasvertex@gmail.com Thu May 23 20:45:29 2013
From: Christopher Nelson <nadiasvertex@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 14:45:27 -0400
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cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ mclient -v
mclient, the MonetDB interactive terminal (Feb2013-SP2)
support for command-line editing compiled-in
character encoding: UTF-8

cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ sudo monetdb version
MonetDB Database Server Toolkit v1.1 (Feb2013-SP2)



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> > SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'
>
> The text function should be part of the 14_inet.sql file which is
> loaded the first time you start (the first) client. Which version
> are you running?
>
> Niels
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> >
> >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> >     > Hi,
> >     >
> >     > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful functions for
> >     the
> >     > inet and url types. For example, I would like to convert an inet
> >     column
> >     > to text for use in a Python script (since the python-monetdb
> >     module
> >     > does not support the inet type.)
> >     >
> >     > I tried:
> >     >
> >     > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> >     ORDER
> >     > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON
> >     in:
> >     > "select wlid, text("
> >
> >     Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote text.
> >
> >     ie
> >
> >     SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT NULL
> >     ORDER
> >     BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >
> >     Niels
> >     >
> >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
> >     NULL
> >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     > unexpected symbol (:)
> >     >
> >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
> >     NULL
> >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     > syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select wlid,
> >     > inet.text("
> >     >
> >     > I have read through the manual sections on types and functions
> >     several
> >     > times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified functions on
> >     these
> >     > types. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >     >
> >     > Thanks!
> >     >
> >     > -={C}=-
> >     >
> >     >
> >
> >     > _______________________________________________
> >     > users-list mailing list
> >     > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> >     > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     Niels Nes, Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI)
> >     Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> >     room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
> >     url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels   e-mail: Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl
> >
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     users-list mailing list
> >     users-list(a)monetdb.org
> >     http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
> >
> >
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > users-list mailing list
> > users-list(a)monetdb.org
> > http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>
>
> --
> Niels Nes, Centrum Wiskunde & Informatica (CWI)
> Science Park 123, 1098 XG Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
> url: http://www.cwi.nl/~niels   e-mail: Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl
>
> _______________________________________________
> users-list mailing list
> users-list(a)monetdb.org
> http://mail.monetdb.org/mailman/listinfo/users-list
>
>



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From Niels.Nes@cwi.nl Thu May 23 20:55:51 2013
From: Niels Nes <Niels.Nes@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:55:50 +0200
Message-ID: <20130523185549.GA17034@niels.cwi.nl>
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:45:27PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ mclient -v
> mclient, the MonetDB interactive terminal (Feb2013-SP2)
> support for command-line editing compiled-in
> character encoding: UTF-8
>=20
> cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ sudo monetdb version
> MonetDB Database Server Toolkit v1.1 (Feb2013-SP2)

Could you do a=20

sql>select * from functions where name =3D 'text';

Should result in the following

+------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+----=
--+
| id   | name | func                      | mod  | sql   | type | side_
| sche |
:      :      :                           :      :       :      : effec
: ma_i :
:      :      :                           :      :       :      : t
: d    :
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
| 5246 | text | create function "text" (p | inet | true  |    1 | false
| 2000 |
:      :      :  inet) returns clob       :      :       :      :
:      :
:      :      :  external name inet."text :      :       :      :
:      :
:      :      : ";                        :      :       :      :
:      :
+------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+----=
--+
1 tuple (3.183ms)
sql>

Niels

>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
>=20
>     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
>     > sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
>     NULL
>     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>     > SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'
>=20
>     The text function should be part of the 14_inet.sql file which is
>     loaded the first time you start (the first) client. Which version
>     are you running?
>   =20
>     Niels
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl>
>     wrote:
>     >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher N=
elson
>     wrote:
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > Hi,
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful
>     functions for
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > inet and url types. For example, I would like to conv=
ert an
>     inet
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 column
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > to text for use in a Python script (since the
>     python-monetdb
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 module
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > does not support the inet type.)
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > I tried:
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src=
 IS
>     NOT NULL
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ORDER
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expe=
cting
>     SCOLON
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in:
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > "select wlid, text("
>     >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote t=
ext.
>     >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ie
>     >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS =
NOT
>     NULL
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ORDER
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>     >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Niels
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHER=
E src
>     IS NOT
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 NULL
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > unexpected symbol (:)
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHER=
E src
>     IS NOT
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 NULL
>     > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
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>     wlid,
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From nadiasvertex@gmail.com Thu May 23 21:58:57 2013
From: Christopher Nelson <nadiasvertex@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 15:58:55 -0400
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sql>select * from sys.functions where name =3D 'text';
+------+------+---------------------------------------------------+------+---=
----+------+-------+------+
| id   | name | func                                              | mod  |
sql   | type | side_ | sche |
:      :      :                                                   :      :
      :      : effec : ma_i :
:      :      :                                                   :      :
      :      : t     : d    :
+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
| 5246 | text | create function "text" (p inet) returns clob      | inet |
true  |    1 | false | 2000 |
:      :      :  external name inet."text";                       :      :
      :      :       :      :
+------+------+---------------------------------------------------+------+---=
----+------+-------+------+
1 tuple (18.424ms)



On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:45:27PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ mclient -v
> > mclient, the MonetDB interactive terminal (Feb2013-SP2)
> > support for command-line editing compiled-in
> > character encoding: UTF-8
> >
> > cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ sudo monetdb version
> > MonetDB Database Server Toolkit v1.1 (Feb2013-SP2)
>
> Could you do a
>
> sql>select * from functions where name =3D 'text';
>
> Should result in the following
>
>
> +------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+--=
----+
> | id   | name | func                      | mod  | sql   | type | side_
> | sche |
> :      :      :                           :      :       :      : effec
> : ma_i :
> :      :      :                           :      :       :      : t
> : d    :
>
> +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> | 5246 | text | create function "text" (p | inet | true  |    1 | false
> | 2000 |
> :      :      :  inet) returns clob       :      :       :      :
> :      :
> :      :      :  external name inet."text :      :       :      :
> :      :
> :      :      : ";                        :      :       :      :
> :      :
>
> +------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+--=
----+
> 1 tuple (3.183ms)
> sql>
>
> Niels
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> >
> >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> >     > sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
> >     NULL
> >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     > SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'
> >
> >     The text function should be part of the 14_inet.sql file which is
> >     loaded the first time you start (the first) client. Which version
> >     are you running?
> >
> >     Niels
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher Nelson
> >     wrote:
> >     >     > Hi,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful
> >     functions for
> >     >     the
> >     >     > inet and url types. For example, I would like to convert an
> >     inet
> >     >     column
> >     >     > to text for use in a Python script (since the
> >     python-monetdb
> >     >     module
> >     >     > does not support the inet type.)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I tried:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS
> >     NOT NULL
> >     >     ORDER
> >     >     > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting
> >     SCOLON
> >     >     in:
> >     >     > "select wlid, text("
> >     >
> >     >     Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote text.
> >     >
> >     >     ie
> >     >
> >     >     SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS NOT
> >     NULL
> >     >     ORDER
> >     >     BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >
> >     >     Niels
> >     >     >
> >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src
> >     IS NOT
> >     >     NULL
> >     >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     > unexpected symbol (:)
> >     >     >
> >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src
> >     IS NOT
> >     >     NULL
> >     >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     > syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in: "select
> >     wlid,
> >     >     > inet.text("
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I have read through the manual sections on types and
> >     functions
> >     >     several
> >     >     > times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified
> >     functions on
> >     >     these
> >     >     > types. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Thanks!
> >     >     >
> >     >     > -=3D{C}=3D-
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> >     >     room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098     sip:4098(a)sip.cwi.nl
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From mk@monetdb.com Thu May 23 22:48:46 2013
From: Martin Kersten <mk@monetdb.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Possible to reset or flush out RAM usage in Windows without
 closing and re-opening mserver.exe?
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 22:48:45 +0200
Message-ID: <519E80AD.4080605@monetdb.com>
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Hi,

A first reaction. The symptoms indicate memory fragmentation.

The message itself is relatively clear. The system attempts to allocate 
589MB from its swap space,
which fails, eg caused by memory fragmentation.

The recovery step is correct, because you start with a fresh malloc pool.
The length of the delay step is correlated with the updates that might
be re-applied from the log and any cleanup.

regards, Martin


On 5/23/13 6:12 PM, Anthony Damico wrote:
> Hi, I'm running a two-day-long program on Windows x64 with MonetDB.R 
> that breaks somewhere into the second day due to what I believe is 
> overloaded RAM? I was under the impression that this should not really 
> happen with MonetDB, since it's a database that doesn't load 
> everything into RAM..  Here's what's happening:
>
> A big, complicated series of importations, merges, and recodes all 
> work for the first two days on about 250,000,000 records of data..  
> but all the while my Windows Task Manager will slowly show the 
> physical memory usage meter ticking up in the "Performance" tab.  
> mserver.exe does NOT appear to be using RAM in the "Memory" column of 
> the "Processes" tab, so it looks like there's a ghost using RAM.
>
> Then, after two days, the script will break (mserver output shown 
> below) - returning a GDK error on a seemingly-benign line of code, 
> just a simple recode:
>
> Error in .local(conn, statement, ..., async = async) :
>   UPDATE ep10 SET rx_cso_cov = CVRD_D_PLAN_PD_AMT WHERE 
> DRUG_CVRG_STUS_CD IN ( 'C','S','O' ) failed!
>   Server says: !GDKerror:!ERROR: GDKmallocmax: failed for 589484032 bytes
>
>
> After that, if I close mserver.exe and open it up again, it takes 
> about twenty minutes to get the ">" mserver prompt.  But it does open 
> up eventually..  and at that point, if I re-connect to the server with 
> R and run the exact same line, it works without error.
>
> So it appears I just need to flush out that ghost/mystery RAM usage 
> somehow?  Does this error make sense?
>
>
> There is no way this is due to lack of hard disk space - this server's 
> C drive has 15GB free and the attached drive actually hosting all of 
> this data has 235GB free.  I don't want to rule it out, but I also 
> doubt this problem is related to MonetDB.R, since the scenario I 
> described does not require that I restart my R console, just mserver.exe.
>
>
> I can work around the problem by manually killing and re-starting 
> mserver.exe at a few logical breakpoints in my program, but I didn't 
> think this was supposed to happen in the first place?
>
>
> Thanks!!!
> Anthony
>
>
>
> # MonetDB 5 server v11.15.7 "Feb2013-SP2"
> # Serving database 'medicare_sample', using 4 threads
> # Compiled for x86_64-pc-winnt/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically linked
> # Found 20.000 GiB available main-memory.
> # Copyright (c) 1993-July 2008 CWI.
> # Copyright (c) August 2008-2013 MonetDB B.V., all rights reserved
> # Visit http://www.monetdb.org/ for further information
> # Listening for connection requests on mapi:monetdb://127.0.0.1:49800/ 
> <http://127.0.0.1:49800/>
> # MonetDB/JAQL module loaded
> # MonetDB/SQL module loaded
> ># SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
> # loading sql script: 09_like.sql
> # loading sql script: 10_math.sql
> # loading sql script: 11_times.sql
> # loading sql script: 12_url.sql
> # loading sql script: 13_date.sql
> # loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
> # loading sql script: 15_history.sql
> # loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
> # loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
> # loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
> # loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
> # SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
> # loading sql script: 09_like.sql
> # loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
> # loading sql script: 10_math.sql
> # loading sql script: 11_times.sql
> # loading sql script: 12_url.sql
> # loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
> # loading sql script: 13_date.sql
> # loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
> # loading sql script: 15_history.sql
> # loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
> # loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
> # loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
> # loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
> # loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
> # loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
> # loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
> # loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
> # loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
> # loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
> # loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
> # loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
> # loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
> # loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
> # loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
> # loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
> # loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
> # loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
> # loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
> # loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
> # loading sql script: 99_system.sql
> # loading sql script: 99_system.sql
> #GDKmalloc(589484032) fails, try to free up space [memory in 
> use=71647756904,vir
> tual memory in use=72723595880]
> #GDKmalloc(589484032) result [mem=71615637640,vm=72198121608]
>
>
>
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From Niels.Nes@cwi.nl Thu May 23 22:51:29 2013
From: Niels Nes <Niels.Nes@cwi.nl>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 22:51:28 +0200
Message-ID: <20130523205128.GC23683@niels.cwi.nl>
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From nadiasvertex@gmail.com Thu May 23 22:56:51 2013
From: Christopher Nelson <nadiasvertex@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Fwd: Using the inet and url type functions
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 16:56:48 -0400
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I was following the instructions on the "getting started" page, so yes, I
created a new schema. I will try that, thanks!


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:

> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 03:58:55PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> > sql>select * from sys.functions where name =3D 'text';
> >
> +------+------+---------------------------------------------------+------+-=
------+------+-------+------+
> > | id   | name | func                                              | mod
> >  | sql   | type | side_ | sche |
> > :      :      :                                                   :
> >  :       :      : effec : ma_i :
> > :      :      :                                                   :
> >  :       :      : t     : d    :
> > +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D
> > =3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> > | 5246 | text | create function "text" (p inet) returns clob      |
> > inet | true  |    1 | false | 2000 |
> > :      :      :  external name inet."text";                       :
> >  :       :      :       :      :
> >
> +------+------+---------------------------------------------------+------+-=
------+------+-------+------+
> > 1 tuple (18.424ms)
>
> Are you using a different schema (or default schema)? If so
> add inet. infront of the "text". That should resolve the function.
>
> Niels
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl> wrote:
> >
> >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:45:27PM -0400, Christopher Nelson wrote:
> >     > cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ mclient -v
> >     > mclient, the MonetDB interactive terminal (Feb2013-SP2)
> >     > support for command-line editing compiled-in
> >     > character encoding: UTF-8
> >     >
> >     > cnelson(a)hpvm:/store/meps/db $ sudo monetdb version
> >     > MonetDB Database Server Toolkit v1.1 (Feb2013-SP2)
> >
> >     Could you do a
> >
> >     sql>select * from functions where name =3D 'text';
> >
> >     Should result in the following
> >
> >
> +------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+--=
----+
> >     | id   | name | func                      | mod  | sql   | type |
> >     side_
> >     | sche |
> >     :      :      :                           :      :       :      :
> >     effec
> >     : ma_i :
> >     :      :      :                           :      :       :      : t
> >     : d    :
> >     +=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D
> >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D+
> >     | 5246 | text | create function "text" (p | inet | true  |    1 |
> >     false
> >     | 2000 |
> >     :      :      :  inet) returns clob       :      :       :      :
> >     :      :
> >     :      :      :  external name inet."text :      :       :      :
> >     :      :
> >     :      :      : ";                        :      :       :      :
> >     :      :
> >
> +------+------+---------------------------+------+-------+------+-------+--=
----+
> >     1 tuple (3.183ms)
> >     sql>
> >
> >     Niels
> >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Niels Nes <Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 02:35:59PM -0400, Christopher Nelson
> >     wrote:
> >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS
> >     NOT
> >     >     NULL
> >     >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     > SELECT: no such unary operator 'text(inet)'
> >     >
> >     >     The text function should be part of the 14_inet.sql file
> >     which is
> >     >     loaded the first time you start (the first) client. Which
> >     version
> >     >     are you running?
> >     >
> >     >     Niels
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Niels Nes <
> >     Niels.Nes(a)cwi.nl>
> >     >     wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:35:01AM -0400, Christopher
> >     Nelson
> >     >     wrote:
> >     >     >     > Hi,
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I noticed in the manual that there are many useful
> >     >     functions for
> >     >     >     the
> >     >     >     > inet and url types. For example, I would like to
> >     convert an
> >     >     inet
> >     >     >     column
> >     >     >     > to text for use in a Python script (since the
> >     >     python-monetdb
> >     >     >     module
> >     >     >     > does not support the inet type.)
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I tried:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, text(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src
> >     IS
> >     >     NOT NULL
> >     >     >     ORDER
> >     >     >     > BY src, ts LIMIT 5;syntax error, unexpected '(',
> >     expecting
> >     >     SCOLON
> >     >     >     in:
> >     >     >     > "select wlid, text("
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Text is a monetdb sql keyword, ie simply double quote
> >     text.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     ie
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     SELECT wlid, "text"(src), ts FROM web_log WHERE src IS
> >     NOT
> >     >     NULL
> >     >     >     ORDER
> >     >     >     BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Niels
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet:text(src), ts FROM web_log
> >     WHERE src
> >     >     IS NOT
> >     >     >     NULL
> >     >     >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     >     > unexpected symbol (:)
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > sql>SELECT wlid, inet.text(src), ts FROM web_log
> >     WHERE src
> >     >     IS NOT
> >     >     >     NULL
> >     >     >     > ORDER BY src, ts LIMIT 5;
> >     >     >     > syntax error, unexpected '(', expecting SCOLON in:
> >     "select
> >     >     wlid,
> >     >     >     > inet.text("
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > I have read through the manual sections on types and
> >     >     functions
> >     >     >     several
> >     >     >     > times now, and I cannot see how to use the specified
> >     >     functions on
> >     >     >     these
> >     >     >     > types. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > Thanks!
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > -=3D{C}=3D-
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
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> >     >     >     room L3.14,  phone ++31 20 592-4098
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From ajdamico@gmail.com Thu May 23 23:28:52 2013
From: Anthony Damico <ajdamico@gmail.com>
To: users-list@monetdb.org
Subject: Re: Possible to reset or flush out RAM usage in Windows without
 closing and re-opening mserver.exe?
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 17:28:30 -0400
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Thanks Martin!  So is there any MonetDB command to initiate the log/cleanup
and start with a fresh malloc pool?  Or is the appropriate answer to this
just shutting down the server and re-starting it?  :)


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Martin Kersten <martin(a)monetdb.org> wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> A first reaction. The symptoms indicate memory fragmentation.
>
> The message itself is relatively clear. The system attempts to allocate
> 589MB from its swap space,
> which fails, eg caused by memory fragmentation.
>
> The recovery step is correct, because you start with a fresh malloc pool.
> The length of the delay step is correlated with the updates that might
> be re-applied from the log and any cleanup.
>
> regards, Martin
>
>
>
> On 5/23/13 6:12 PM, Anthony Damico wrote:
>
>    Hi, I'm running a two-day-long program on Windows x64 with MonetDB.R
> that breaks somewhere into the second day due to what I believe is
> overloaded RAM?  I was under the impression that this should not really
> happen with MonetDB, since it's a database that doesn't load everything
> into RAM..  Here's what's happening:
>
>  A big, complicated series of importations, merges, and recodes all work
> for the first two days on about 250,000,000 records of data..  but all the
> while my Windows Task Manager will slowly show the physical memory usage
> meter ticking up in the "Performance" tab.  mserver.exe does NOT appear to
> be using RAM in the "Memory" column of the "Processes" tab, so it looks
> like there's a ghost using RAM.
>
>  Then, after two days, the script will break (mserver output shown below)
> - returning a GDK error on a seemingly-benign line of code, just a simple
> recode:
>
> Error in .local(conn, statement, ..., async =3D async) :
>   UPDATE ep10 SET rx_cso_cov =3D CVRD_D_PLAN_PD_AMT WHERE DRUG_CVRG_STUS_CD
> IN ( 'C','S','O' ) failed!
>   Server says: !GDKerror:!ERROR: GDKmallocmax: failed for 589484032 bytes
>
>
>  After that, if I close mserver.exe and open it up again, it takes about
> twenty minutes to get the ">" mserver prompt.  But it does open up
> eventually..  and at that point, if I re-connect to the server with R and
> run the exact same line, it works without error.
>
>  So it appears I just need to flush out that ghost/mystery RAM usage
> somehow?  Does this error make sense?
>
>
> There is no way this is due to lack of hard disk space - this server's C
> drive has 15GB free and the attached drive actually hosting all of this
> data has 235GB free.  I don't want to rule it out, but I also doubt this
> problem is related to MonetDB.R, since the scenario I described does not
> require that I restart my R console, just mserver.exe.
>
>
> I can work around the problem by manually killing and re-starting
> mserver.exe at a few logical breakpoints in my program, but I didn't think
> this was supposed to happen in the first place?
>
>
> Thanks!!!
>  Anthony
>
>
>
> # MonetDB 5 server v11.15.7 "Feb2013-SP2"
> # Serving database 'medicare_sample', using 4 threads
> # Compiled for x86_64-pc-winnt/64bit with 64bit OIDs dynamically linked
> # Found 20.000 GiB available main-memory.
> # Copyright (c) 1993-July 2008 CWI.
> # Copyright (c) August 2008-2013 MonetDB B.V., all rights reserved
> # Visit http://www.monetdb.org/ for further information
> # Listening for connection requests on mapi:monetdb://127.0.0.1:49800/
> # MonetDB/JAQL module loaded
> # MonetDB/SQL module loaded
> ># SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
> # loading sql script: 09_like.sql
> # loading sql script: 10_math.sql
> # loading sql script: 11_times.sql
> # loading sql script: 12_url.sql
> # loading sql script: 13_date.sql
> # loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
> # loading sql script: 15_history.sql
> # loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
> # loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
> # loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
> # loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
> # SQL catalog created, loading sql scripts once
> # loading sql script: 09_like.sql
> # loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
> # loading sql script: 10_math.sql
> # loading sql script: 11_times.sql
> # loading sql script: 12_url.sql
> # loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
> # loading sql script: 13_date.sql
> # loading sql script: 14_inet.sql
> # loading sql script: 15_history.sql
> # loading sql script: 16_tracelog.sql
> # loading sql script: 17_compress.sql
> # loading sql script: 18_dictionary.sql
> # loading sql script: 19_cluster.sql
> # loading sql script: 20_vacuum.sql
> # loading sql script: 21_dependency_functions.sql
> # loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
> # loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
> # loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
> # loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
> # loading sql script: 22_clients.sql
> # loading sql script: 23_skyserver.sql
> # loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
> # loading sql script: 24_zorder.sql
> # loading sql script: 25_debug.sql
> # loading sql script: 39_analytics.sql
> # loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
> # loading sql script: 75_storagemodel.sql
> # loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
> # loading sql script: 80_udf.sql
> # loading sql script: 99_system.sql
> # loading sql script: 99_system.sql
> #GDKmalloc(589484032) fails, try to free up space [memory in
> use=3D71647756904,vir
> tual memory in use=3D72723595880]
> #GDKmalloc(589484032) result [mem=3D71615637640,vm=3D72198121608]
>
>
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